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Old 11-10-2005, 01:03 PM
NoSoup4U NoSoup4U is offline
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Default Re: The Ljubljana Conspiracy.

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When Prock was in Ljubljana twice earlier this year he didnt mention visiting any parties mentioned in this thread.

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actually, earlier in this thread maxpowers said that abdul jalib was an alias for some guy named michael hall, and they visit a guy named mike in ljubljana and take a picture with him (5/19).

the thing i learned from this thread is that it makes more sense now why andy prock jumped to the defense of DERB six months ago without giving specifics about why his style works. he was defending a friend, but perhaps talking a bit out of his ass while doing it, since it wasn't a first hand knowledge thing.

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Spoilsport! Did they buy a horse?
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Old 11-10-2005, 01:14 PM
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Default Re: The Ljubljana Conspiracy.

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Hmmmm, doesn't seem to be run of the mill poker strategy: SLO think tank

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WTF?

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Got them. Red Handed.

http://www.fekali.com:3455/28/12

Seriously, just try editing a page. Anyone could of done that.

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Rationality has no place in a conspiracy theory thread. There are clearly only 2 possible explanations:

1. They are a Slovenian government funded porn ring. I don't know Slovenia's reason for involvement but I'd like to check recent UFO activity in that part of the world. I also need hardly mention the obvious Slovenia - Pakistan - Bin Laden – Asian tsunami connection.

2. Those links go to articles detailing revolutionary BB defence strategies and limit ring game use of the action bluff. They are disguised to avoid the attention of 2+2ers. We all know the poker world revolves around us.

3. Explanation X.
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Old 11-10-2005, 01:19 PM
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Default Re: The Ljubljana Conspiracy.

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When Prock was in Ljubljana twice earlier this year he didnt mention visiting any parties mentioned in this thread.

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actually, earlier in this thread maxpowers said that abdul jalib was an alias for some guy named michael hall, and they visit a guy named mike in ljubljana and take a picture with him (5/19).

the thing i learned from this thread is that it makes more sense now why andy prock jumped to the defense of DERB six months ago without giving specifics about why his style works. he was defending a friend, but perhaps talking a bit out of his ass while doing it, since it wasn't a first hand knowledge thing.

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C'mon people...what about Luka?

"Luka"..."Lojzka "...hmm...
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Old 11-10-2005, 02:14 PM
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i really doubt andy prock is from slovenia as andy prock is clearly an american name.

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Andrew is definately American and lives in California. (unless he recently moved to Ljubljana).

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I saw Mr. Prock in Vegas last August playing pot limit Mississippi studooki. Now that I reflect on it, he was probably on a field trip conducting research for the next generation DERB bot.
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Old 11-10-2005, 02:26 PM
Phat Mack Phat Mack is offline
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BTW, Tonda is the one from Ljubljana who plays too loose and loses.


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I believe that all the Abdulian posts were deleted from the archives, so there's no way to check this, but Tonda's (if Tonda is indeed Mrs. Hall (Mrs. Hall, if I remember correctly, posted on 2+2 as "Lone Star" (and her posts, I believe, were also expunged)))... anyway... Tonda's problem was not that she played too loose, but that Abdul couldn't teach her to look at her cards correctly. Why the incorrect handing of cards would be a problem in internet play is unclear, but if we can solve this mystery, it may clear the whole DERB matter up.
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Old 11-10-2005, 04:22 PM
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Default Re: The Ljubljana Conspiracy.

I think I just solved the mystery.

DERB plays way too many hands, yet still seems to win. Many have talked about somehow scanning players cards so that DERB knows what you have. Andrew Prock created Poker Stove, which many 2+2ers use. Coincidence?

Think that one over.
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Old 11-10-2005, 04:47 PM
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Default Re: The Ljubljana Conspiracy.

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I think I just solved the mystery.

DERB plays way too many hands, yet still seems to win. Many have talked about somehow scanning players cards so that DERB knows what you have. Andrew Prock created Poker Stove, which many 2+2ers use. Coincidence?

Think that one over.

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i can tell you from experience that DERB does not play like he can see your cards

if he could i see reasons to change his game up a bit to throw party off, but its very clear that he cant see what you have by the way hell sometimes spew even when you have a monster

also if he could, meta-effects wouldnt really be necessary, so theres not too much reason for him not to play an almost perfect FTOP game, just varying it so that people dont catch on to the fact that he could see your cards



also, i dont think anyones mentioned this yet, but his character on party is a girl
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Old 11-10-2005, 06:25 PM
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Default Re: The Ljubljana Conspiracy.

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I think I just solved the mystery.

DERB plays way too many hands, yet still seems to win. Many have talked about somehow scanning players cards so that DERB knows what you have. Andrew Prock created Poker Stove, which many 2+2ers use. Coincidence?

Think that one over.

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Are you implying that there is code in pokerstove to send your hole cards to someone over the internet? If so it isn't true it would be extremely easy to find out if packets are being sent out by the program and someone would've made a big deal out of it by now.
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Old 11-10-2005, 06:32 PM
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Vince Lepore is also in on this.

Ljubljana Cheaters Caught. Anyone we know?
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Posted on: Friday, 19 January 2001, at 4:44 p.m.

SLOVENIA Casino Cheat Goes Free Melanie Banks, Gambling Newsletter Slovenian police caught an Italian citizen January 16 using a miniature video camera and a mobile phone to cheat in a game of poker in a casino in Ljubljana, which borders with Italy.

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Ljubljana does not border Italy. In fact, I don't think there is casino gaming in the city. However, Nova Gorica (Slovenia) borders Italy and has three large casinos.

The casinos cater to Italians and the staff all speak Italian.
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Old 11-10-2005, 10:19 PM
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Default Re: The Ljubljana Conspiracy.

I had a dream about the consipriacy during my 6 hr afternoon "nap" today. Sklansky had murdered abdul jalib and was hiding out in an underground room in 2+2 headquarters. Some top 2+2ers were sorting out the facts and finally getting close to the truth. Some other top 2+2ers were in cahoots with sklansky and kept holding secret meetings with him in his secret hiding place.

Then somehow I was at 2+2 HQ and stumbled upon the hallway which lead to the secret hideout. When I looked down the hall I saw sklansky chasing mike caro with a shotgun. When he saw me he decided to chase me and instead so I took off and ran upstairs and jumped out a window. He continued to follow me down the street and his shots were coming closer and closer to me until all the sudden, just when I thought he had me, he dropped dead. Shot from behind. I looked back and saw Mason, gun-drawn walking toward David's body.

Then I woke up, thats the best I can remember it anyways. I couldnt make this sh!t up if I tried.
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