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Old 10-01-2007, 03:54 PM
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Default 25NL 2-Pair Line faces river shove, line check

Villan is 20/2/1 over 60 hands, my image would be tight.


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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Hero ($32.10)
UTG ($28.80)
MP1 ($10.05)
MP2 ($25.60)
CO ($24.05)
Button ($14.90)
SB ($14.40)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, CO calls $0.25, Button calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: ($0.85) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1</font>, CO calls $1, Button folds.

Turn: ($2.85) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2.75</font>, CO calls $2.75.

River: ($8.35) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $20.05</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $15.35
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Old 10-01-2007, 04:01 PM
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Default Re: 25NL 2-Pair Line faces river shove, line check

By betting so small on the river you set yourself up for a bluff raise. If you bet more then his raise here is more likely a big hand. I agree with folding as played.
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Old 10-01-2007, 04:02 PM
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Default Re: 25NL 2-Pair Line faces river shove, line check

You're cooked. Given this guys stats, he's either the type that limps AK PF and hit a higher two pair on the river OR he had you the whole way with a set or something.

The call, call, raise all-in line is a typical donk monster betting pattern.
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Old 10-01-2007, 04:11 PM
Dennisa Dennisa is offline
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Default Re: 25NL 2-Pair Line faces river shove, line check

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The call, call, raise all-in line is a typical donk monster betting pattern.

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Why is call,call, raise all in a donkey play? If I am up against an aggro villain its the logical play especially in position.
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Old 10-01-2007, 04:15 PM
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Default Re: 25NL 2-Pair Line faces river shove, line check

I think the RNG always favors the aggressor. Seems like every time I snap call they hit their gutshot.
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Old 10-01-2007, 04:15 PM
Peak01 Peak01 is offline
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Default Re: 25NL 2-Pair Line faces river shove, line check

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The call, call, raise all-in line is a typical donk monster betting pattern.

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Why is call,call, raise all in a donkey play? If I am up against an aggro villain its the logical play especially in position.

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If you are up against an aggro villian with A3 then why wait till the river hoping he will call an overbet when you can get all his money in before the river guaranteed?
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Old 10-01-2007, 04:24 PM
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Default Re: 25NL 2-Pair Line faces river shove, line check

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The call, call, raise all-in line is a typical donk monster betting pattern.

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Why is call,call, raise all in a donkey play? If I am up against an aggro villain its the logical play especially in position.

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Well, given the relatively non-threatening board, call call raise isn't terrible, i'm just saying in general alot of donks will slowplay their monsters all the time regardless of board or opponent.

This villian's stats are pretty indicative of the type of villain that does this too so it jumped out at me that this is probably what was happening.

I also feel that this is hardly ever a bluff, but nothing is impossible.
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