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Old 10-19-2007, 07:15 PM
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Default Re: We win (AP Scandal v. 27)

druff-
It probably doesn't get mentioned as much but thanks for your involvement as another high profile name in this thing.
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Old 10-19-2007, 07:16 PM
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Also, I am pretty sure these "straight-to-the-media" anonymous statements from AP are a trial balloon, and they're trying to gage the responses on the forums in order to craft an official lie.

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Ha! They're playing with real poker players like Adanthar, who's keeping his cards close to his vest. Time for Ap to fold 'em.
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Old 10-19-2007, 07:16 PM
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While I'm not a 2p2-related person or even a mod (please to be a mod? ... I mainly just want to be able to read the mod forum), I would be happy to get involved and report my findings and feelings back to the 2p2 community


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N82 for mod of new 2+2 Investigations forum.

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srsly. There is a lot of work that can be done in advancing evidence gathering and detection methods for this type of cheating, collusion, chip dumping, and bots. After this fiasco, 2p2 is the only body I would trust with this task.
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Old 10-19-2007, 07:16 PM
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Also, I am pretty sure these "straight-to-the-media" anonymous statements from AP are a trial balloon, and they're trying to gage the responses on the forums in order to craft an official lie.

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Ha! They're playing with real poker players like Adanthar, who's keeping his cards close to his vest. Time for Ap to fold 'em.

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BASTARD
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Old 10-19-2007, 07:17 PM
bronx bomber bronx bomber is offline
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I have a question, where is the PPA in all this? Dont misunderstand me, the work that all involved have contributed has been exceptional. But whenever news organizations are interviewing people-they are individuals and for better or worse the PPA is really all we have. I understand they do not want to squander their resources in an investigation-but the bully pulpit is an effective tool. CP and Bluff also might devote more resources to investigating this if the only organization for card players at least came out with a statement.
Greg Raymer, I gotta ask, as a member of the PPA and a poster on 2+2, where are you? The pulpit is yours sir, start yelling.
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Old 10-19-2007, 07:17 PM
The Funky Llama The Funky Llama is offline
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FWIW, I'm almost positive "SPONSOR" was a bot. He played a ton of high limit on ABS. I didn't report him for various reasons.
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Old 10-19-2007, 07:17 PM
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I was contacted by someone today who told me AP was looking for a 2p2 rep to be involved in the audit and that I should get in contact with a certain person. While I'm not a 2p2-related person or even a mod (please to be a mod? ... I mainly just want to be able to read the mod forum), I would be happy to get involved and report my findings and feelings back to the 2p2 community.

I contacted the person at AP that was looking for a rep and I have not heard back.

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N 82 50 24 for mod!

Seriously.
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Old 10-19-2007, 07:19 PM
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Limit Poker is a great game for bots.

Wasn't there a match of Bot vs Laak in Vancouver which showed that there are poker bots that can play limit HE almost as well if not as well as Pros?
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Old 10-19-2007, 07:19 PM
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Default Re: We win (AP Scandal v. 27)

Quote of Adam from P5's in the MSN Article :“I think that the reasons this got handled the way that it has, with a happy ending, is because the overwhelming majority of people in the industry … want things to be run in a fair and honest way,”

WTF?? Happy ending? Is he serious?

I think Adam is an honest dude, I think whoever is talking to him at AP is doing a good job of brain washing.

This is far from over.
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Old 10-19-2007, 07:20 PM
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Oh, and I know that Stuckinpgh sent the original hand histories (back in Feb 2006) to a few people to look at. It's been a long time, and I don't remember if I was one of the people e-mailed, but I am going through my old computer to see if I can find them.
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