Station master

2Paul2 · #1 08-17-2006, 04:05 PM

Not too sure about any of these really. Which of these do you think I win(I don't lose them all is your only help) and which if any do you think are played well?

Hand 1.

Villain seems to be a reg. Quite aggro, bit too limpy/cally for my tastes but seems to have the right idea post flop in terms of aggression and what not. Stats of 26/13/3 over ~250 hands. I've been vry aggro so far this session(like 30/25 or summat, mix of good cards/tight table) and I'm pretty sure he's noticed.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (4 handed) internettexasholdem.com

saw flop|saw showdown

SB ($566.65)
BB ($238.05)
Hero ($286.60)
Button :#A500AF(villain)/ ($361.10)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero raises to $8, Button :#A500AF(villain)/ calls $8, 2 folds.

Flop: ($19) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $14, villain raises to $34, Hero calls $20.

Turn: ($87) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, villain bets $60, Hero calls $60.

River: ($207) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, villain bets $180, Hero calls $180.

Final Pot: $567

Hand 2.

Villain is 29/20/2.5 over about 200 hands or so. Seems kinda aggro but that's about all I got.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

saw flop|saw showdown

MP ($200)
CO ($314.20)
Button ($63)
Hero ($496.55)
BB ($620.10)
UTG ($95)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, CO raises to $6, 1 fold, Hero raises to $24, 1 fold, CO calls $18.

Flop: ($50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $34, CO calls $34.

Turn: ($118) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $50, Hero calls $50.

River: ($218) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $75, Hero calls $75.

Final Pot: $368

Hand 3.

All villains are unknown entities.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

saw flop|saw showdown

BB ($232.70)
UTG ($28.95)
MP ($82.80)
CO ($224)
Hero ($264.75)
SB ($311.60)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP calls $2, 1 fold, Hero raises to $10, SB calls $9, BB calls $8, MP calls $8.

Flop: ($40) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($40) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets $20, MP folds, Hero calls $20, SB calls $20.

River: ($100) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $22, Hero calls $22, SB folds.

Final Pot: $144

Have at it.

Paul

jb9 · #2 08-17-2006, 04:24 PM

I think you won hand 3 and played it OK.

I think you need to decide in hand 1 if you think you are ahead on the turn, and if you think you are, then you should bet or check/raise. I'd rather bet the river than call.

Hand 2, I don't know. The turn is ugly and the river is uglier, but it wasn't too expensive to get to showdown.

Antinome · #3 08-17-2006, 04:43 PM

Hand 1 Villian is telling you you are beat, but there are only 5 hands we're worried about
KK- very unlikely,
99 or 77 - I'd expect a bigger flop raise. What he did looked like someone pushing off a cbet, not protecting a set from a flush draw.
K9, K7 - very possible.

I guess he could have a 3. I don't see how. A3s?K3s?

Hands we beat - 97 seems unlikely because of small flop reraise, flush draws - turn bet was unneccesary. Maybe QJd? JTd? T8d?, A9- my best guess- tries to push you off cbet, puts you on draw, makes 2 pair + scare card+ you miss flush on river. Others KT, KJ - possible.

I don't mind this hand. If you lost, I think he had K9 or K7, and if you won I think he had a combo diamond draw or A9. The river is the place to fold this hand if you are going to, and I'd put it at 50-50. Whatever. Maybe a turn lead is best.

Antinome · #4 08-17-2006, 04:49 PM

Actually, I could see how you could win them all.
Here's how I'd bet.

H1- 50% to Win
H2- 25% to Win
H3- 75% to Win

Jamougha · #5 08-17-2006, 05:11 PM

H1: I would imagine you lost this and think that calling the river bet is -EV in these games absent a read. If you won I guess he had Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] or J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

H2: I'm really not sure what's going on here. I think you played fine though. He may be putting you on a draw or a weak hand and be trying to fold you out of it, or trying to extract the max vs 2nd pair, who knows.

H3: Given the pot odds I can't really find a fold here. If you lost it was probably to TT.

2Paul2 · #6 08-17-2006, 07:47 PM

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I think you need to decide in hand 1 if you think you are ahead on the turn, and if you think you are, then you should bet or check/raise. I'd rather bet the river than call.

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Ye I agree a c/r all in on the turn would prolly be best in hand 1(or folding). At the time I felt like he had 77/99 or a draw/air and so I wanted to let him keep firing. Given how big a draw he could potentially have I think a turn c/r all in is prolly better than c/c'ing turn/river.

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H1: I would imagine you lost this and think that calling the river bet is -EV in these games absent a read. If you won I guess he had Q J or J T.

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Do you mean stars in particular or 200nl 6max in general, because I defo think the sites play diff. Against a similar player on ft I prolly fold the turn. On party I'm quite happy calling river against alot of guys in this spot. I dunno calling felt a bit dirty but I'm kinda new to stars and thought I would pay off.

What do you think of turn c/r all in here?

Paul

aces_dad · #7 08-17-2006, 07:53 PM

Turn c/rai in hand1 is tough without aggro read, many would check behind their diamond draw here. I could see you beating busted diamonds here. Unless you know he'll bet a busted draw on river c/r ai is prolly better if you want to get it in.

Hand2, the boardd is very bad for A's as almost all 2broadway hands beat you now, but he never really priced you out. Hard to see how you won this one.

2Paul2 · #8 08-18-2006, 04:55 AM

Hand 1.

He had QTo and mhig. This is prolly the one I liked the least. I think I need to do something diff on the turn.

Hand 2.

He had 6h7h and my hand is good. When that turn hit I decided I c/c c/c depending on what hit river/how much he bet would be best v an aggro opponent. I didn't like the river but getting over 3-1 in a big pot when I had shown a fair bit of weakness I felt I had look him up.

Hand 3.

Prolly the most boring/standard one. I just felt like a bit of a donkey calling down. I think have to def look this one up though. He had JQo and mhing.

Paul

Matt Jenko · #9 08-18-2006, 06:49 AM

la grunch.

win, lose, win

edit: i am good [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]