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11-06-2007, 05:35 PM
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Calling here is spewing here, yes? A8 gets pushed around
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)
UTG :#A500AF(Villain 1)/ ($17.20) MP ($34.15) CO ($22.30) Hero ($48.05) SB :#A500AF(Villain 2)/ ($24.75) BB ($15.55) Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $0.35. UTG :#A500AF(Villain 1)/ calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO (poster) checks, Hero calls $0.25, SB :#A500AF(Villain 2)/ completes, BB checks. Flop: ($1.35) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font> Villain 2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $1</font>, Villain 1 calls $1, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, Villain 2 folds, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Villain 1 raises to $16.95</font> Villain 1 is solid, villain 2 is too loose-passive. Those are just stat-reads though, nothing specific about their play. So, once they flat call I figure them both for a draw (since a solid player would raise, right?) Then he shoves. My first thought here is that he tried to limp-reraise with AA/KK, my second thought is that he might be the kind who open-limps with low PP's in early position and hit his set, and was smooth-calling the flop to induce more betting, but figures he should take his shot now after my raise. Regardless I have to be beat here, right? 
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#3
11-06-2007, 05:50 PM
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Re: Calling here is spewing here, yes? A8 gets pushed around
stop open limping stop open limping stop open limping stop open limpingstop open limping stop open limpingstop open limping stop open limpingstop open limping stop open limpingstop open limping stop open limpingstop open limping stop open limping
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#4
11-06-2007, 05:51 PM
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Re: Calling here is spewing here, yes? A8 gets pushed around
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stop open limping stop open limping stop open limping stop open limpingstop open limping stop open limpingstop open limping stop open limpingstop open limping stop open limpingstop open limping stop open limpingstop open limping stop open limping [/ QUOTE ] I didn't open limp.
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#5
11-06-2007, 05:52 PM
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Re: Calling here is spewing here, yes? A8 gets pushed around
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I didn't open limp. [/ QUOTE ] ?_?
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#6
11-06-2007, 05:57 PM
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Re: Calling here is spewing here, yes? A8 gets pushed around
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[ QUOTE ] I didn't open limp. [/ QUOTE ] ?_? [/ QUOTE ] I limped. I didn't OPEN limp. Open limping is when I limp as the first one in the pot. With a UTG caller I'm just limping. That may or may not have been a bad idea here, but it wasn't open limping.
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#8
11-06-2007, 06:00 PM
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Re: Calling here is spewing here, yes? A8 gets pushed around
Fold pre-flop or raise, but don't call here. Axo doesn't play well in multi-way limped pots at all. No matter how you hit the flop you are almost always going to have an RIO problem.
Depending on my image and the table texture I might raise hoping to take it down with a c-bet on the flop, especially with CO's dead money, but probably the majority of the time I just fold. Raising Axo on the button is an OK way to try and open up your game in position and with the right table dynamics it's alright, but folding preflop is never going to be a big mistake. As played, fold, you aren't beating anything.
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