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Old 09-14-2007, 02:29 PM
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Default river fold?

raise KdQd utg+1, next in is a very good live-style player who thinks you are a bit in the laggy side who cold calls, a couple more cold callers, blinds call.

flop 943 two diamonds
I bet, utg+2 calls, another call, blind check/raises, I call, utg+2 now 3bets, fold, blind calls, I call.

turn T club
checks around

river 5 diamond
blind bets, how insane is it to fold here?
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Old 09-14-2007, 02:38 PM
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Default Re: river fold?

I can't figure good player to have anything but AJdd.

I still can't bring myself to fold without seeing what he does, though.
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Old 09-14-2007, 02:41 PM
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Default Re: river fold?

Hmm well the only hand that makes sense for utg+1 to have that has you beat is AJd. I think folding the 2nd nuts to a blind bet here is a bit nutty as he could easily have 9T here. I'd just call and call one more back. Alternatively you can raise and fold to a 3 bet as you're almost never good when you get 3 bet here.
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Old 09-14-2007, 02:42 PM
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Default Re: river fold?

Very insane. I also would have 3 bet the flop myself.
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Old 09-14-2007, 02:48 PM
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Default Re: river fold?

I'd never fold that spot.
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Old 09-14-2007, 02:56 PM
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Default Re: river fold?

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Very insane. I also would have 3 bet the flop myself.

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Old 09-14-2007, 02:57 PM
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Default Re: river fold?

I would not fold unless he mistakenly turned over his cards and showed Ax diamonds. I think you missed a raise on the flop (is this a 5 bet cap)...you're ahead most of the time (or have great odds. I'd raise the river. BB doesn't have you beat. UTG 2 can only reraise if he has the nuts.

Then you have to puke and fold.
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Old 09-14-2007, 03:28 PM
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Default Re: river fold?

john, who are bb and utg2?
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Old 09-14-2007, 04:30 PM
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Default Re: river fold?

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john, who are bb and utg2?

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bb is a random moron, not really a factor or even close to the reason I'm folding

utg2 is dave. playing good dave, not stuck dave.
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Old 09-14-2007, 04:46 PM
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john, who are bb and utg2?

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bb is a random moron, not really a factor or even close to the reason I'm folding

utg2 is dave. playing good dave, not stuck dave.

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it seems like AdJd/AdJd/JdTd make up dave's hand range so you need to SD the times he has the rare lower flush, but I agree he is going to have you beat here often.
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