TT 11.5bb, do I get it in here?

jurrasstoil · #1 11-04-2007, 04:47 PM

Hi,

reads on first allin guy: he is desperate and bad, losing his stack with high card Ace. So his range is like... 32o+...
reads on allin flatcaller: he is bad, calling 4bb raises with Q2o oop, etc. so i had his range down to any Ace, any King, any pair and two face cards.

Titan Poker German Freeroll 100/200, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

saw flop | saw showdown

Button Button (7690)
SB (730)
BB Hero (2330)
UTG (1610)
UTG+1 UTG+1 (1150)
MP (4340)
MP (2240)
MP (710)
CO-1 (3070)
CO (750)

Preflop: Hero is in the BB with T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
1 fold, UTG+1 moves all-in for 1150, 5 folds, Button calls 1150, 1 fold, Hero moves all-in for 2130, Button calls 1180

Results: [hidden]
Button shows Ad 3d
Hero shows Tc Th
UTG+1 shows Ac Kh

I thought I had no FE of course, or maybe something like 3-5%. I thought i'm a favorite like 75% of the time, 15% i'm even with them and 10% of the time one of them has JJ+.

So the question is: Do I have to get it in?

jchauvin · #2 11-04-2007, 05:03 PM

Without reads its a shove, with reads double insta super shove.

Paul McSwizzle · #3 11-04-2007, 05:10 PM

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Hi,

reads on first allin guy: he is desperate and bad, losing his stack with high card Ace. So his range is like... 32o+...
reads on allin flatcaller: he is bad, calling 4bb raises with Q2o oop, etc. so i had his range down to any Ace, any King, any pair and two face cards.

Titan Poker German Freeroll 100/200, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

saw flop | saw showdown

Button Button (7690)
SB (730)
BB Hero (2330)
UTG (1610)
UTG+1 UTG+1 (1150)
MP (4340)
MP (2240)
MP (710)
CO-1 (3070)
CO (750)

Preflop: Hero is in the BB with T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
1 fold, UTG+1 moves all-in for 1150, 5 folds, Button calls 1150, 1 fold, Hero moves all-in for 2130, Button calls 1180

Results: [hidden]
Button shows Ad 3d
Hero shows Tc Th
UTG+1 shows Ac Kh

I thought I had no FE of course, or maybe something like 3-5%. I thought i'm a favorite like 75% of the time, 15% i'm even with them and 10% of the time one of them has JJ+.

So the question is: Do I have to get it in?

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Every single thing that you posted screams that the best play is to get it in. With these reads, you are never ever folding here.

MorsifiedZombie · #4 11-04-2007, 05:23 PM

The ? is why you wouldn't get it in here. Good hand, bad opponents, short stacked. What more do you want?

levAA · #5 11-04-2007, 06:50 PM

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I thought I had no FE of course, or maybe something like 3-5%. I thought i'm a favorite like 75% of the time, 15% i'm even with them and 10% of the time one of them has JJ+.

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You already gave yourself the answer.

Super Villain · #6 11-04-2007, 10:51 PM

SHOVE ALL DAY AND TWICE ON SUNDAYS.

jurrasstoil · #7 11-04-2007, 11:06 PM

Thanks guys.

I'm not always sure if I make the right moves, especially in MTTs. First I think it's correct, on the second thought i'm not sure and post it here - after that i mostly feel dumb for asking because it is pretty obv most of the time [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Some of my problems are maybe too results oriented.

SengioKang · #8 11-04-2007, 11:27 PM

lets hear the end of the story now [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

you sound alot like me... i fold QQ on the bubble... if there were a lagtard i'm his congenital twin opposite brother

jurrasstoil · #9 11-04-2007, 11:40 PM

Button shows A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG+1 shows A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

I was pretty much surprised by UTG+1 holding AK [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] Buttons A3s did not surprise me AT ALL...

So, ofc I got outdrawn with an A high flop. happens.