AQ on the Button - 1 limper

[Webster]

$0.10 BB (8 handed) Absolute-Poker Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)


SB ($3.80)
BB ($22.55)
UTG ($12.83)
UTG+1 ($5.30)
MP1 ($4.10)
MP2 ($4.60)
CO ($2.60)
Hero ($5.80)

Preflop: Hero is Button with , .
UTG calls $0.10, [color=#666666]4 folds</font>, [color=#CC3333]Hero raises to $0.4</font>, [color=#666666]1 fold</font>, BB calls $0.30, UTG calls $0.30.

I see nothing wrong with the Raise here - Villon is 17/5/2 so I was concerned about some tricky play.
Flop: ($1.25) , , [color=#0000FF](3 players)</font>
BB checks, [color=#CC3333]UTG bets $0.4</font>, Hero calls $0.40, BB folds.

DAMN - his .40 bet is a good bet (for him). Sure he COULD have a King but I have a nut flush draw and an over card.

Turn: ($2.05) [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>
[color=#CC3333]UTG bets $2</font>, Hero calls $2.

What do you think about this call. $2 to what I believe is a winning ace OR a nut flush. I'm thinking I did not have the odds (10 outs I was thinking but I was in TOO DEEP NOW!!

Comments?

River: ($6.05) [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: $6.05

[Alobar]

I raise the flop. So far in my experience, all these weak lead bets are god only knows what, because I raise them and they fold like 80% of the time.

The way you played, I fold the turn. You don't have odds to draw, id just give up. If you had a little more money behind I might bluff the river. He looks likes hes got some smaller pocket pairlike 7s or something, that I think you could get him to fold. But I wouldnt do that all the time, just throwing it out as something to think about

[Webster]

Better look - sorry

Yea - I figured I was beat and was in a squishy tilty sort of way. Lost a 1 outer on the river earlier for a BUNCH!

The Gods were being unfair and I logged off after this hand.

$0.10 BB (8 handed) Absolute Poker Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($3.80)
BB ($22.55)
UTG ($12.83)
UTG+1 ($5.30)
MP1 ($4.10)
MP2 ($4.60)
CO ($2.60)
Hero ($5.80)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.10, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.4</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $0.30, UTG calls $0.30.

Flop: ($1.25) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $0.4</font>, Hero calls $0.40, BB folds.

Turn: ($2.05) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $2</font>, Hero calls $2.

River: ($6.05) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: $6.05

[Chicago Twister]

Reload preflop. You have no business sitting with 58 BBs.

PSR the flop normally, but given your stack you should just push.

[Webster]

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Reload preflop.

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I like having the advantage over large stacks though!

[Chicago Twister]

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Reload preflop.

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I like having the advantage over large stacks though!

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Hopefully you're kidding. But just in case, you don't have the advantage. The best way to have the advantage is to have the most skill and the largest stack.

[diebitter]

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I like having the advantage over large stacks though!

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eh, there's not any significant advantage, other than a full stack is slightly more willing to get in with your 60BB stack than he should be. You lose on the implied odds front (wouldn't you rather be able to stack another player for 100BB when you hit your set or well concealed straight?)

[Webster]

Well - according to Miller the advantage is that FOR ME all stacks are the same size. It is a BIG advantage to be the short stack among large stacks . . .and Vice versa.

In fact "having a "large stack has the advantage" is one of the biggest fallacy's in Big Bet Poker" according to Miller. Just going by what I read - thats all.

Must big stacks play a much looser game and as both authors say - punish the big stacks for playing loose!

Plus when learning the game Malmuth says play short stacked.

You say "The best way to have the advantage is to have the most skill and the largest stack. "

But is it better to have LESS skill and a bigger stack?

However - at 60BBs I'm normally the bigger stack of 6 of the 9 players. I'd say on a typical table 40BB is the norm.

[diebitter]

it depends what stack size you're talking about. There isn't much intrinsic advantage in playing 60BB I don't think. Sure, they won't perfectly adjust to you and you'll get looser play from them than they should be doing, but OTOH, when you get a decent hand like a set against their overpair, you're leaving money on the table by not having a full buyin.

It's swings and roundabouts really, but at 60BB, it's about breakeven, I reckon.

You definitely can have an advantage playing less than 50BB though, as long as you raise properly so as not to give stuff like LP Axs/PP/SC good implied odds.

[Webster]

I agree - I think 60 is a tweener. I WANT to play 40BB but think I'm more of a 100 player - yet - I don't want to get tilty and lose 100 because of some bone call that I'm not used to yet.