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Old 10-03-2007, 10:03 AM
Merlinius Merlinius is offline
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Default 200NL inside sfdraw in small pot vs. strong c/r

NL $1.00/$2.00

SB ($187.00)
BB ($58.00)
CO ($76.95)
Button ($191.85) (Hero)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
CO calls $2.00, Hero calls $2.00, SB calls $1.00, BB checks,

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ( $8 )
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $3.00</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $12.00</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $47.00</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero?

SB is a reasonable 26/10 player who did not get out of line in any of the hands I have played with him in the past which are quite a lot.

Against a set I have only 35% equity. If I add top 2 pair as well as top and bottom pair to his range, my equity is about 40%. I don't see much fold equity and very little chance he has a hand weaker than top and bottom 2 pair.

I'm uncertain whether a shove is the right decision here because of the small pot and the arguments mentioned above. What do you think?
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Old 10-03-2007, 10:05 AM
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Default Re: 200NL inside sfdraw in small pot vs. strong c/r

push. Preflop is bad. He can have AJ, KJ here a decent amount.
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Old 10-03-2007, 10:08 AM
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Default Re: 200NL inside sfdraw in small pot vs. strong c/r

I usually raise preflop, calling could be fine depending on the blinds and the limper.

Stats/reads on co?

I call the flop. I'm suspecting we got pretty decent implied odds, but as you say not much fe.
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Old 10-03-2007, 10:09 AM
Nick Royale Nick Royale is offline
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Default Re: 200NL inside sfdraw in small pot vs. strong c/r

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Preflop is bad.

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Because you're raising? I'm almost always playing this, unless blinds are lags. I'm raising most often though.
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Old 10-03-2007, 10:12 AM
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Default Re: 200NL inside sfdraw in small pot vs. strong c/r

I donīt like your play at all. Why donīt you raise the hand pre-flop if your going to play it. I do anything to avoid these spots.
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Old 10-03-2007, 10:23 AM
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Default Re: 200NL inside sfdraw in small pot vs. strong c/r

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Preflop is bad.

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Because you're raising? I'm almost always playing this, unless blinds are lags. I'm raising most often though.

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yeah, sorry didn't specify, I meant always raise this preflop. You have position on CO and well that's all you need really.
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Old 10-03-2007, 10:44 AM
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Default Re: 200NL inside sfdraw in small pot vs. strong c/r

I did not raise pf because the CO was so short and had 52/10 stats as well as the BB with 37/7. I thought I had the implied odds to play against them on the Button when I limp but I could not extract any value of the hand when one or two of them called my preflop raise which I considered as a very likely scenario.
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Old 10-03-2007, 10:46 AM
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Default Re: 200NL inside sfdraw in small pot vs. strong c/r

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I did not raise pf because the CO was so short and had 52/10 stats as well as the BB with 37/7.

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Good point. I didn't notice stacksizes. Given reads and stacksizes I think folding preflop is fine. Still, since all opponents are passive limping in IP is ok.

call&gt;fold&gt;&gt;raise imo
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Old 10-03-2007, 11:10 AM
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Default Re: 200NL inside sfdraw in small pot vs. strong c/r

Nothing wrong with preflop imo.

Dont push this flop. SB has a big hand here and will probably pay of if you hit on turn (specially your gutter).
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Old 10-03-2007, 11:34 AM
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Your flop raise is awwful, you want as many ppl in this hand as poss not make it 2handed between u and the short stack.
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