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10-03-2007, 08:08 AM
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c/f KK on A high flop vs 50% vpip guy oop?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)
Button ($160.10) SB ($104.10) BB ($106.20) UTG ($61.40) MP ($116.25) Hero ($116.85) Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, Button calls $4, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $3. Flop: ($12.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> BB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $8</font>, BB folds, Hero folds. Btn 47/15/2.5/15, seen a lot of 1/2 ps bets with his weaker holdings. BB 18/15/2.3/23 reasonable. Call flop and fold to further action, or even c-bet? Most of his stack >100b is from me, cause i had to c/f so many crappy flops. 
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#2
10-03-2007, 08:10 AM
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Re: c/f KK on A high flop vs 50% vpip guy oop?
Definitely call once. If BB wakes up behind you, turbomuck. After that, play poker on the turn.
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#3
10-03-2007, 08:12 AM
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Re: c/f KK on A high flop vs 50% vpip guy oop?
I definitely would have put the c-bet in on that board. That's the only real way to take it down against non-ace hands without getting pushed out of the pot.
As played, just muck it. There is no way to play this profitably out of position. If you must call, only do it once, on the flop. Unless your miracle king comes on the turn, you have to check/fold. Or maybe you'll get lucky and see a showdown.
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