50nl - AA villian shoves river

[whyzze]

No reads. Villian is 23/17/3.5. I am running about 23/20/4.

What do you think of the turn? More importantly, do you call the river?


Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $65
Hero (BB): $87.15
UTG: $46.50
MP: $35.35
CO: $76.05
BTN: $103.30

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $1.75</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $6</font>, CO calls $4.25

Flop: ($12.25) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $8</font>, CO calls $8

Turn: ($28.25) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($28.25) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $19</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $62.05 and is All-In</font>, Hero ???

[corsakh]

I think its a fold. The only thing you beat here is JT and I doubt it plays so passively.

[Nemesis69]

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I think its a fold. The only thing you beat here is JT and I doubt it plays so passively.

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You're not even beating that [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

I think this is a clear baluga.

[mickske]

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I think its a fold. The only thing you beat here is JT and I doubt it plays so passively.

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You're not even beating that [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

I think this is a clear baluga.

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AA55x vs JJTTx.

Anyway, fold.

[Nemesis69]

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I think its a fold. The only thing you beat here is JT and I doubt it plays so passively.

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You're not even beating that [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

I think this is a clear baluga.

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AA55x vs JJTTx.

Anyway, fold.

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Wow, I suck at poker. I'd better review handrankings again. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[rjacobs003]

Ok I'm confused. You guys need to run me through some detail on why this is so clear-cut as a fold. Does our turn check not show us up for weakness which he could well be trying to exploit on the river?

[You're No Daisy]

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I think its a fold. The only thing you beat here is JT and I doubt it plays so passively.

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You're not even beating that [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

I think this is a clear baluga.

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He has aces up. How is he not beating Jack and Tens?

[AZplaya]

whyzze,
who was hero in this hand? I think you need a read that he hero will lay down TPTK+ before you bluff shove this river. As noted I much prefer taking a stab at the pot on the turn.

[r2me]

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He has aces up. How is he not beating Jack and Tens?

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Villan could have: (1) lower overpair (QQ/KK), J10, trips (JJ, 10/10), or air (OESD that didn't connect). We have top 2 pr.

Villan's line (at least initially) just doesn't look like a set on the flop to me. Villan was IP w/ a chance to bet on the turn...but didn't. Then reraised all in when board paired.

My first thought was this is a clear call since villan could have lower overpairs or J10. But villan could also be doing a "stutter step" check on turn given the pot size to induce a bet from hero. If you look @ stack sizes, then a raise on rivr would enable villan to get his $ all in w/ a raise. (Since villan is in position, it also gives villan another chance to bet @ &amp; build this pot if s/he checks river.)

What would I do? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] I would call [because our hand is just too good against the full range of villan] &amp; make a careful note about this player. (And throw my mouse across the room if this was a slow played set on the flop that filled up on the rivrr.) [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

[GSykes]

easy call IMO
you under repped your hand
people play bad in three bet pots

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