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10NL QQ overpair, help
unknown villain
against an unknown, do we always fold or do we push? what kind of reads do we need to decide our course of action? thanks Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.05/$0.10 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter) SB: $17.75 BB: $10.95 UTG: $17.00 CO: $10.10 Hero (BTN): $9.45 Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 Players) UTG folds, CO raises to $0.35, Hero raises to $1.25, 2 folds, CO calls $0.90 Flop: ($2.65) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players) CO bets $1.80, Hero calls $1.80 Turn: ($6.25) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players) CO bets $6.25, Hero ??? |
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Re: 10NL QQ overpair, help
raise the flop. You should be willing to get it all in there.
as played put it in on the turn |
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Re: 10NL QQ overpair, help
Usually a player will raise again preflop with AA or KK. This feels like AJ, KJ, a bluff, or a set. You are either way ahead or way behind.
I would raise the flop and be ready to pay off a push. |
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Re: 10NL QQ overpair, help
With villain oop, I feel like he'd reraise with AA or KK preflop, instead of smooth calling your 3bet. You are most likely ahead here, this seems like a quick call to me.
this is just about a perfect flop for your hand (eh on the J), so why are you averse to getting it all in before potential scare cards come on turn and river? |
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Re: 10NL QQ overpair, help
Raise flop. Call push or get it in on turn.
I think he has 34 on this turn though. Its a hand that fits and tbh I really dont mind folding QQ here to the PSB anyway. |
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Re: 10NL QQ overpair, help
yea, i usually raise flop, but i dont kno why i didnt this time. my lose rate is getting to me. but i guess if u guys want the results i'll post it in white.
<font color="white"> Turn: ($6.25) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players) CO bets $6.25, Hero raises all-in to $6.40, CO calls $0.15 River: ($19.05) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In) Pot Size: $19.05 ($1 Rake) CO had J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Jacks) and WON (+$8.60) Hero had Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a pair of Queens) and LOST (-$9.45) </font> |
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Re: 10NL QQ overpair, help
Why aren't you raising the flop?
His hand range is very wide here, and as played I think you have to make this river call. |
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Re: 10NL QQ overpair, help
You mean turn call?
I disagree. |
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Re: 10NL QQ overpair, help
Oops, yeah I mean turn. What hands besides JJ can you put him on that you don't beat?
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Re: 10NL QQ overpair, help
Look more at what hands can he have that fit the line he takes. I find this process leads me to think that we are behind his range here.
He raises preflop. Calls a raise. Then donk bets the flop. Using this info I believe we can narrow down the range enough to justify a fold. |
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