NL Bots on Full Tilt

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Hey guys. I just wanted to also point out that it's possible that the accounts in question are just playing a solid game. They seem pretty tight aggressive to me, and that's not a bad thing. There's no need for everyone to jump all over this BrandonJoe guy just because his opinion is different from yours.

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30,000 hands, same site, three different players logging on at the same time, logging off at the same time, and not playing at the same table for any one of those hands?

I'm sorry, but that's very odd.

[dlk9s]

FWIW, I did an IP search on BrandonJoseph's account and only found that it was in the U.S.

Then I did a "tracert" and while it eventually timed out, the last hop was in Pittsburgh.

[me999so]

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A super nit with a win rate of 1.5 against all players would get beaten pretty easily by a better than avg NL player.

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You are missing the point. Even if they didn't beat NL200, they might beat NL100 or NL50 which reduces the dead money available at higher stakes.

[ComplacentMarmot]

http://www.pocketfives.com/C18A38DB-...3D40D4C9B.aspx



interesting

[raistlinx]

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FWIW, I did an IP search on BrandonJoseph's account and only found that it was in the U.S.

Then I did a "tracert" and while it eventually timed out, the last hop was in Pittsburgh.

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An IP search of his account? This makes no sense.

[KotOD]

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"1forthethumb" and "mariojr"??? LOL

Sounds like the work of some CMU geeks (or some other Pittsburgh sports fan(s) ).

For those unfamiliar with Pittsburgh sports lore-- the Steelers had 4 Super Bowl victories/rings until 2006; enough for each finger of the hand but the thumb. From the 1980's to 2006 the Steeler fans' rallying cry was "One for the thumb".

As for "mariojr"-- back in the mid 1990's, someone noticed that 2nd banana Penguins hockey star Jaromir Jagr's first name was an anagram for "Mario Jr."-- as in Mario Lemieux. [Sorry if this is obvious to everyone-- I just figured that not everyone here follows Pittsburgh sports and some might not have caught the connection].

I'm no FBI profiler, but makes sense to me that this is the work of some college math/poker geeks at a techy school like CMU and the connection that two of the suspected bots' names have is highly suspicious.



wow...nice catch.


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Just to add a little insanity to the post. I believe Pokertracker developers are from Pittsburgh. Sometime in the past, while playing chess at the Internet Chess Club(Blitzin), I asked whether the two were connected but receive no reply. Believe the source of ICC is also in Pittsburgh. [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

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PT developers are from well north of the city.

[DMoogle]

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FWIW, I did an IP search on BrandonJoseph's account and only found that it was in the U.S.

Then I did a "tracert" and while it eventually timed out, the last hop was in Pittsburgh.

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Well that pretty much confirms that he WAS indeed that bot owner. Nice work, dlk9s.

[skillzilla]

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I agree that the issue of bots and moreso of Full Tilt not stopping the bots is a problem and might be a big problem going forward, but at this point all I see is some bots who can barely break even at $200NL.

The 4 "bots" listed have an avg win rate of around 1.5

Someone said they didnt know there were bots would could beat NL for a nice win rate. This isnt a nice win rate. A super nit with a win rate of 1.5 against all players would get beaten pretty easily by a better than avg NL player.

I for one wouldnt mind playing these bots even if I didnt trhey were bots. I just wont be paying off anyone playing that tight

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only a matter of time till bots will be beating nl2000

[TerryBradshaw]

I'm on the side that believe these may just be very good players who coincidentally play at the same time.

Bots are not a threat!

Tin foil hats all around.

[SCrosby87]

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There's always room for humor. But let's not get too far off track here.

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LDO. Carry-on.