Maximise a big hand

[kenn121]

Whats the way to get max value from a big hand especially late on in MTTs

So i have started to slip below average in the $10 rebuy and we are down to 60 odd runners.

PokerStars Game #13327552678: Tournament #66750719, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level XIX (4000/8000) - 2007/11/18 - 21:09:33 (ET)
Table '66750719 195' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: j.thaddeus (194950 in chips)
Seat 2: kennl (124576 in chips)
Seat 3: DrPaul08 (217448 in chips)
Seat 4: dci981 (105982 in chips)
Seat 5: lepagebr1 (227246 in chips)
Seat 6: ullih (262329 in chips)
Seat 7: pippz (93604 in chips)
Seat 8: --tx-- (169895 in chips)
Seat 9: ElTigr0 (131754 in chips)
j.thaddeus: posts the ante 800
kennl: posts the ante 800
DrPaul08: posts the ante 800
dci981: posts the ante 800
lepagebr1: posts the ante 800
ullih: posts the ante 800
pippz: posts the ante 800
--tx--: posts the ante 800
ElTigr0: posts the ante 800
DrPaul08: posts small blind 4000
dci981: posts big blind 8000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to kennl [As Ah]
lepagebr1: folds
ullih: raises 16000 to 24000
pippz: folds
--tx--: calls 24000
ElTigr0: folds
j.thaddeus: folds

whats my move?

1. Shove it in and hope someone calls
2. Raise to like 64k
3. Flat call and take it away on the flop after a c/bet?

both players have been pretty active.

Please your views?

[wylies]

Given your stack size I stick it in especially if villians think you're capable of squeezing. Flat call gives the blinds better odds to call and would leave you with just a PSB for the flop. Raising to 64K looks fishy since it's 1/2 your stack.

[kenn121]

what about the min reraise to 48k i know it looks fishy but dont you think this is a good time to try and get some more chips?

[wylies]

There's already over 67K in the pot which is over 50% of your stack so I'd be happy pushing and either taking it there or getting called. A min reraise pretty much defines your hand and allows your opponets to only give you action if they've outflopped you.

[kenn121]

thanks i get what your saying but at this late stage would there be an argument to flat call to ensure you get more action whereas pushing you are not guaranteed action?

Am i off target completely here, please let me know

[Frankzan]

I think this is a perfect spot to push all-in as it'll look like a squeeze and anything decent might call.

[ssnyc]

just shove it here...pot is nice already and you may get a hero call from a pp or AK/AQ

[homanga]

Shove always worth the pot as is even if you don't get a caller

[TheFoxNL]

shove
pot is worth enough to pick it up right now
and if you get called thats just extra [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[registrar]

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thanks i get what your saying but at this late stage would there be an argument to flat call to ensure you get more action whereas pushing you are not guaranteed action?

Am i off target completely here, please let me know

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You don't ensure you get more action when called. There are a load of hands, which may call a shove, that may not put in another chip UI and OOP on a load of flops. There are also a reasonable number of hands which always fold to a shove that don't put in another chip, or not enough chips often enough, unless they outflop you. It's pretty rare to see a flop three, perhaps fourway, at this stage and even idiots will be somewhat wary.