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[DcifrThs]

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It's funny how these discussions always seem to turn into an ego thing. I don't know if it has occured to anybody that this guy might be good, but just using another strategy than the standard 2+2 TAG. I think we should await Cypher's analysis an see if we can learn something!

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why do you think i wanna do this...

if you would have asked me 1yr ago if a guy who plays 30% of his hands (or vol puts $ in pot) can win i'd say no...

but now maybe we can see wtf in gods name is going on b/c its not only happeneing, and he's not only winning, but he's the biggest winner period.

-Barron

[rigoletto]

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But as I've said many times about this player, I'm sure he makes a lot of money against people who are unable or unwilling to properly adjust to him.

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This is likely very correct. An important sideeffect is that good players will often be forced out of the pot and leave him with the guys who are dumb enough to play back at him with little or nothing. There is probably a lot of iso raises behind this guy preventing others from entering the pot and when the raising wars start postflop you'll often have to let go of an otherwise decent draw. My point is that even if you win money from this guy when you are in a hand with him, he can still put a dent in your EV by keeping you out of pots that would have been profitable for you.

[rigoletto]

I'm sorry Cypher, I wasn't refering to you. My response was meant for mmcd and James.

[Yobz]

Any results from the data yet?

[DcifrThs]

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Any results from the data yet?

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LOL bite me!!!!!!!!

when i wrote papers for the dept of labor it took me 4 months out of the 8 months to organize, correctly set up variables and constrcut models...

this is clearly easier and the data is fiarly easy to wade through once i get it into columns and the variables are constructed but i still need to put thought into the analysis...if i gave you something now you should question the efficacy of my methods.

-Barron

[rigoletto]

exploitative strategies, this Thread might be of interest. Particularly Granny and Angelinas (Izmet's) replies.

[J_V]

Seriously. Stop making it sound like those stats are tenable. Let me say it again 30 17 2.0

His turn raise win rate sucks for sure.

[rigoletto]

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Seriously. Stop making it sound like those stats are tenable. Let me say it again 30 17 2.0

His turn raise win rate sucks for sure.

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Are you suggesting that he pulls the 3BB/100 out of his ass?

[J_V]

He can't win and thats a guarantee.

[J_V]

Absolutely. He is a horrible player. Probably running really well.

The real question is: are you suggesting he is actually good? He is so bad it's not even a question. Maybe you have not seen him play.