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Old 07-09-2007, 03:24 AM
BevillTheDevil BevillTheDevil is offline
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Default 100NL I suck at draws...

UTG is 58/17/1.4 150 hands huge fish, UTG+1 is 39/8/2.3 after 50. TBH i think i suck pretty bad at playin draws correctly and find myself not sure what to do in spots like this. Also I think i probably shouldve cbet this flop...

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $153.10
UTG+1: $68.55
CO: $79
Button: $95.20
Hero: $217.35
BB: $22

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $6.5</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($20.5, 3 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $25</font>, Hero ??
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Old 07-09-2007, 03:47 AM
mvdgaag mvdgaag is offline
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Default Re: 100NL I suck at draws...

If you push you are either a little ahead or a 2-1 dog against UTG+1 and the pot offers not much more than 4:1. Also (fish or not) UTG is still to act with a bigger stack, so I wouldn't push.

I'm not folding this.

So I'd probably want to call, hope the fish calls as well, pray for hearts and reevaluate on the turn.

GL
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Old 07-09-2007, 03:54 AM
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Default Re: 100NL I suck at draws...

b/3b flop jeez
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Old 07-09-2007, 03:56 AM
MM_red33 MM_red33 is offline
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Default Re: 100NL I suck at draws...

im thinking J10, 1010-JJ for UTG+1.

The problem i see here is tht if another heart hits ur not getting another dollar from UTG+1 unless hes on a draw as well. So basically your playing for $50 well 75 if you call.

This is ahrd but i probably wouldnt call unless ive been winning alot and feel like gambling.
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Old 07-09-2007, 04:05 AM
mvdgaag mvdgaag is offline
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Default Re: 100NL I suck at draws...

Whow, I misread terribly. Thought you had position...
Bet out on flop.
If UTG calls and UTG+1 raises I still wouldn't 3bet, cause you're better off keeping UTG in. You might only be drawing to 9 outs.
If UTG folds and UTG+1 raises I 3bet.
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Old 07-09-2007, 04:36 AM
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Default Re: 100NL I suck at draws...

As played, UTG+1 wants everyone to leave. His aggro is not passive and hero checked and UTG made weak bet. He could be doing this with wide range of hands.

I 3bet him all in and UTG will fold. There is ~10-15% chance UTG+1 folds due to him making a play and if he calls you are not that bad against his range.

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Old 07-09-2007, 04:39 AM
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Default Re: 100NL I suck at draws...

you should have started out by leading the flop.
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Old 07-09-2007, 04:46 AM
McRoNiX McRoNiX is offline
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Default Re: 100NL I suck at draws...

Yeah lead flop!
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Old 07-09-2007, 05:05 AM
DawnToDusk DawnToDusk is offline
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Default Re: 100NL I suck at draws...

I for sure bet this flop almost all the time. I might check if I know I am playing against someone super aggressive and they will bet allowing me for a C/R. I will probably shove any turn card at which point too if they call my C/R.

As played I think you can shove. UTG just called a raise PF and could be betting this cuse he has some little piece of the board and would like to see the turn for cheaply. If UTG+1 calls (which he could very likely because of pot odds) you are getting your money in as a favorite most likely.
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Old 07-09-2007, 05:07 AM
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Default Re: 100NL I suck at draws...

bet flop call raise and get lucky.
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