Combo draw vs donk

waldo027 · #1 10-07-2007, 05:16 PM

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($28.75)
Button ($41.75)
SB ($19.65)
Hero ($24.65)
UTG ($28.55)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP raises to $0.75, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.60) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $0.25, Hero raises to $2, MP raises to $4

This guy was a 60/35/2.3 after 175 hands. I know we are supposed to bet aggressively with combo draws, but that is against players who can lay down a hand. It is EV because of fold equity. His min-3bet is a sign of strength. Should I come back over the top or just call with the odds he's giving me and try to hit?

casey_brick · #2 10-07-2007, 06:13 PM

I like a call here and then reevaluate on the river

Logun · #3 10-07-2007, 06:16 PM

looks like he might have an overpair here and I'm farily sure he''s not the type to fold it.

call and see what the turn brings

Dallas Dru · #4 10-07-2007, 06:19 PM

call... your not going to get the fold equity you need to push in that spot

Spurious · #5 10-07-2007, 06:25 PM

just call here, against this opponent it's worthless to put in that much money.

i think we could get some problems on turn + river.

if we make our flush on the turn, it is unlikely that we get maximum value out of it.
gutshot would be payday tho.

Numfar · #6 10-07-2007, 08:11 PM

In normal circumstances yiou don't really need FE with a big draw against an overpair because you are flipping and the pot odds make it profitable. Any FE, even a little bit, just makes it more profitable to push.

However, the fact that the board is paired makes things more complex. It may be a 60/40 situation and you do need FE for a push to be profitable. If you think he might fold 20% of the time or more then push, if not call.

Numfar · #7 10-07-2007, 08:16 PM

BTW, I often just fold PF and sometimes fold to the 3-bet on the Flop. His line suggests that you could already be drawing to one out.

waldo027 · #8 10-08-2007, 02:39 AM

We got it in on the flop and he had J6 and it held up. In the future against this type of player I will just call with draws and wait for big hands to stack him with.