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#11
11-17-2007, 09:52 PM
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Re: icm tells me to call but i dont like it (15+1)
In spots like this I'm thinking not only of the range of the pusher, but also the difference in skill between me and the rest of the players.
With antes I'm certainly leaning towards a call. Without them and it's a tough decision. What level was the hand above at crystal? BB's play was ghastly. 
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#13
11-18-2007, 12:17 AM
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Re: icm tells me to call but i dont like it (15+1)
If your Opp range is lower than 13% u should fold
if there is higher than 15% instant call
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#14
11-18-2007, 01:37 AM
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Re: icm tells me to call but i dont like it (15+1)
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What level was the hand above at crystal? BB's play was ghastly. [/ QUOTE ] It was $5. I think there was some ego involved.
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#15
11-18-2007, 01:47 AM
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Re: icm tells me to call but i dont like it (15+1)
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I think he has like 77-JJ, AJ-AK. So I would probably fold this and call with tens. [/ QUOTE ] hmm this must be wrong. if he has that range you are flipping vs his pair range and ahead of his high cards so its a call. anyways i call intuitively but its close. im rusty but we are enough handed where bubbble effects dont factor in enough. this is a snap call with JJ, an easy all with TT, and i thnk a slim call with 99.
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#16
11-18-2007, 01:50 AM
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Re: icm tells me to call but i dont like it (15+1)
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[ QUOTE ] I think he has like 77-JJ, AJ-AK. So I would probably fold this and call with tens. [/ QUOTE ] hmm this must be wrong. if he has that range you are flipping vs his pair range and ahead of his high cards so its a call. anyways i call intuitively but its close. im rusty but we are enough handed where bubbble effects dont factor in enough. this is a snap call with JJ, an easy all with TT, and i thnk a slim call with 99. [/ QUOTE ] hmmm i might be wrong. wow sngs suck
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#17
11-18-2007, 02:10 AM
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Re: icm tells me to call but i dont like it (15+1)
No I agree with you Fluores, JJ or TT is a call, 99 is marginal at best but I guess a call w/o reads.
I also agree that in these situations I think about the skill level at the table and decide if Im one of the better players or not. If I am then I can probably exploit someone's weakness later on, If I feel that I might be a weak player at the table then taking a flip for the CL is fine w/ me.
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#19
11-18-2007, 07:41 AM
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Re: icm tells me to call but i dont like it (15+1)
This is impossible to answer without reads, really.
If I somehow got here readless, I'd fold as it's either a marginal call, a marginal fold or a somewhat clear fold, depending on the opponent imho.
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