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Old 11-18-2007, 03:56 PM
KitCloudkicker KitCloudkicker is offline
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Default quickie flop checkup

incredibly awesome loose passive 20/40 at borg.

4 limps, I complete SB with A4o (no spade), BB checks.

Flop is Q53 monotone spades. I check, spazz BB (range here is any pair, draw) leads, 2 callers (both LP's). Do I call here closing the action?
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Old 11-18-2007, 04:07 PM
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Default Re: quickie flop checkup

you're getting 9:1 and you have maximum clean outs and you are hugely vulnerable to reverse implied odds no matter how LP or bad your opponents are. Fold.
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Old 11-18-2007, 04:10 PM
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Default Re: quickie flop checkup

You don't have enough equity to draw even if threre were 2 spades on the board. And you almost never draw to a straight (especially isnside non-nut straight) when the flop is all one suit. It had to be capped 6 way preflop for this to be correct given the flop action.
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Old 11-19-2007, 03:47 AM
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Default Re: quickie flop checkup

3 clean outs + 2 good aces which might be worth 1 (or less) outs total - lots of redraws - implied odds which aren't terrible but not great = fold
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Old 11-19-2007, 01:48 PM
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Default Re: quickie flop checkup

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3 clean outs + 2 good aces which might be worth 1 (or less) outs total - lots of redraws - implied odds which aren't terrible but not great = fold

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What he said
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Old 11-19-2007, 02:25 PM
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Default Re: quickie flop checkup

it's pretty easy for you to already be up against a flush here
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Old 11-19-2007, 05:53 PM
Bicycles_Biatch Bicycles_Biatch is offline
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Default Re: quickie flop checkup

I don't have a degree in english... but if monotone still means all the cards on the board were spades... FOLD.
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Old 11-19-2007, 06:59 PM
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Default Re: quickie flop checkup

Calling here pretty awful IMO.

9-1 closing the action and you're PRAYING you have like 5 outs. You likely have between 0-3, and will still sometimes lose even if you get there on the turn.
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Old 11-19-2007, 07:11 PM
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no
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