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Old 06-22-2007, 04:21 AM
criminaldave criminaldave is offline
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Default Nut flush, paired board facing overbet allin.

My apologies if this is totally standard. I had a horrendous night on Wednesday (run bad followed up by monkey tilt) and last night I was questioning *everything* I did. Don't have access to PT stats but villain here is not someone i've been playing with long at all, 40-50 hands tops. He is not terrible, but not good either. I just took a nice chunk of change from him when I bet flop, turn and river with a set and he looked me up with top pair. Based on the few hands since then I suspect he is looking to play back at me and double up quickly but he may just have had a few big hands.

Standard pf raise and continuation bet. Check the turn to avoid any nasty traps. Anyone fire again? River?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">SB ($59.85)</font>
BB ($100.95)
UTG ($100)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($244.90)</font>

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3</font>, SB calls $2.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($7) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, SB calls $5.

Turn: ($17) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($17) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $51.85 (All-In)</font>, Hero?
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Old 06-22-2007, 04:33 AM
rakes.a.beach rakes.a.beach is offline
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Default Re: Nut flush, paired board facing overbet allin.

I bet turn here.

Insta call river?
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Old 06-22-2007, 05:18 AM
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Default Re: Nut flush, paired board facing overbet allin.

Instacall this river, if he has a boat so be it. It cannot possibly put you on a flush, it looks like a slow played Q or a lower flush.
Also, against a straight forward player (not a maniac that c/r a lot and not a calling station who never folds) I bet the turn always as we have a lot of FE against villain range.
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Old 06-22-2007, 05:19 AM
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Default Re: Nut flush, paired board facing overbet allin.

i'd have a really hard time folding this

played well on flop/turn also
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Old 06-22-2007, 05:42 AM
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Default Re: Nut flush, paired board facing overbet allin.

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i'd have a really hard time not betting the turn

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believable scare card + new outs = bet

call river, since he doesn't put you on a flush and is vbetting trips or worse
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Old 06-22-2007, 05:47 AM
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Default Re: Nut flush, paired board facing overbet allin.

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i'd have a really hard time not betting the turn

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believable scare card + new outs = bet


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in the games i play, a turn bet here is -EV unless i'm betting pretty much any river. this would be better w/8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] since i could bluff an ace river and valuebet a 9 or 8 (I TAX U 4 SHOWDOWN)
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Old 06-22-2007, 05:49 AM
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Default Re: Nut flush, paired board facing overbet allin.

Thank you all.

Enough responses. I did call and was shown 55 for the flopped fh. I think this is probably a fold with a low flush but with the A high flush it is a call.

I bust him not long after.
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Old 06-22-2007, 05:49 AM
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Default Re: Nut flush, paired board facing overbet allin.

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i'd have a really hard time not betting the turn

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believable scare card + new outs = bet


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in the games i play, a turn bet here is -EV unless i'm betting pretty much any river. this would be better w/8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] since i could bluff an ace river and valuebet a 9 or 8 (I TAX U 4 SHOWDOWN)

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i don't know where you play, but i play ps tonight and i bluffed an overcard turn on paired flop 3 times, i got put ai once, and got folds twice, you are getting a fold pretty damn often
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Old 06-22-2007, 06:39 AM
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Default Re: Nut flush, paired board facing overbet allin.

ez call
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Old 06-22-2007, 06:48 AM
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Default Re: Nut flush, paired board facing overbet allin.

Well played on all streets, and call river.
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