nl 200 AA reraised on river

[Renton]

raise flop or turn

btw its not as much of an autoraise flop as everyone is making out

[ASPoker8]

I think your river raise is pretty sketch

If you are calling flop/turn, call river.

As played, easy fold

[jetsetboy]

SCCL and I both agree on a call.
At worse you just gave 74$ more to villain to punish you to have played AA badly. It's no big deal.

[Hklm8383]

huohuho i folded the river

[HughJass]

Renton, can you clarify why this is not an autoraise flop when a 44/20 villain leads for 1/2 pot? Is it because of the stack sizes? If the stacks were 100BB effective would it then be an autoraise?

[Renton]

well, if you feel that his range is polar (i.e. sets draws), and that he's going to be b3b a lot, then raising sucks, because it causes you to get all in with shaky equity vs his range. If that were the case, then calling and going buck wild on a blank turn would create an edge for yourself.

[HughJass]

Gotcha. I was under the assumption that top pair was a big part of his range and raising would get value from AQ/KQ. But I see how calling and betting/raising a blank turn is a much better line when he has a draw.

However, just calling on the flop can make for a tough turn decision. If we call the flop and the turn is the 4spades, are we folding to a big turn bet since we don't have tha A of spade? I'm not confident enough to make that kind of a laydown against a 44/20. Aren't we vulnerable to getting bluffed on later streets when we don't raise the flop? Or are you calling the flop planning on calling turn/river even if the turn is the 4 of spades?

[HughJass]

Here the villain only bet 1/2 pot on turn so obviously we're not folding, but what do we do if we call the flop, the turn is a spade and he bets pot?