AKs turn/ river play

larm · #1 09-25-2007, 08:14 AM

Villian is 26/3/.7 over 160 hands

Full Tilt 0.25/0.5 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, SB calls, 1 fold, UTG calls.

Flop: (7 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, UTG bets, Hero calls, SB raises, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, UTG folds, Hero ?

Do you reraise turn, wait until river or call down?

Oink · #2 09-25-2007, 08:22 AM

I dont think a 26/3 guy calls 4x in the SB vs a raise very often. I would expect him to have AT, KTs, QTs, JTs, T9s and pocket pairs a lot here.

So yeah I think you can go ahead and raise it.

If he 3-bets it sucks and you can go ahead and fold I guess. Altho you do have 2 outs vs 4x and 3 outs plus 2 chop outs vs KT. Hmmm.... Dunno!

jt1 · #3 09-25-2007, 08:30 AM

Just because a guy is tight doesn't mean he won't cold call A4s or K4s. A4s is even standard for most TAGs. However, he still probably has a Ten but after 160 hands you don't know how he plays postflop so I prefer just getting to the SD. But if a club or another broadway hits on the river then I like raising it because trips is less likely to 3bet.

larm · #4 09-25-2007, 08:31 AM

I was thinking the same thing. Would it be better to wait until the river to raise it as my holecards are pretty much face up if i raise turn(kj+ and maybe misclicked a4s)? This is ment as a more generel question as villian probably does not handread!

Oink · #5 09-25-2007, 08:36 AM

It would be a lot easier for hero to raise/fold the river than to raise/fold the turn.

But if he doesnt call a raise with Tx or a pp it doesnt matter. You wont get value then.

The same applies to the turn. It can only be a raise if he calls with Tx and pp's. If he doesnt you should just call and let him fire away.

Hi5 · #6 09-25-2007, 08:37 AM

As long as you are capable of raising AT and JJ+ on the turn here, I do not think it turns your hand face up.

larm · #7 09-25-2007, 08:40 AM

[ QUOTE ]
As long as you are capable of raising AT and JJ+ on the turn here, I do not think it turns your hand face up.

[/ QUOTE ]

i will always reraise those hands on the flop.

Gurravasa · #8 09-25-2007, 09:41 AM

I think I call. Villain is likely to fold most hand we beat and will probably 3-bet if he has a monster. If we raise we probably must fold to a 3-bet. I don't think giving a cheap card can hurt us very much if ahead so I call turn and call river if he bets and bet river if checked to. Close thou...

yourface · #9 09-25-2007, 11:04 AM

I would just call
a T is more likely than a 4 based on hand combinations, but this guy may not be c/r lots of Ts here
also he may not pay off a raise and river bet since your hand is pretty transparent

vs a LAG I would raise
if the pot was multiway I would raise