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Old 11-28-2007, 12:00 PM
BLAABAR BLAABAR is offline
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Default PL100 fullhouse reraised on turn

hi there. my first post on the omaha forum. hopefully not my last since im trying to learn this game.

What do you think of this hand?
Should I bet out on the flop? If i do that what to do if reraised?

What about the turn? Only QQ and 88 that beat me so i thought he would bet QQ on the flop.

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Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
7 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (7 players) Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, CO folds, Button calls, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($5, 5 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, Button checks.

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($5, 5 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $4.27</font>, 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $17.56</font>, Hero calls.

River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($40.12, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $38.12</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: $116.36


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Old 11-28-2007, 12:27 PM
TimberBee TimberBee is offline
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Default Re: PL100 fullhouse reraised on turn

First; include stacks in the hh.

I like the hand, although I often bet the flop. But I don't mind a check.
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Old 11-28-2007, 12:28 PM
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Default Re: PL100 fullhouse reraised on turn

stack sizes and reads?

w/ 100bb stacks against an unknown it's really close. I'd probably play it the same.
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Old 11-28-2007, 12:31 PM
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Default Re: PL100 fullhouse reraised on turn

Oh sorry didnt se that the converter didnt include them.

effective around 100.

no reads new to table.
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Old 11-28-2007, 01:35 PM
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Default Re: PL100 fullhouse reraised on turn

I play it the same.
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Old 11-28-2007, 02:21 PM
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Default Re: PL100 fullhouse reraised on turn

In truth, without a read I pee myself when he re-raises pot on the turn (at the 100 level). That's where I fold. Plenty of people won't bet QQ on that flop.
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Old 11-28-2007, 06:44 PM
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Default Re: PL100 fullhouse reraised on turn

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In truth, without a read I pee myself when he re-raises pot on the turn (at the 100 level). That's where I fold. Plenty of people won't bet QQ on that flop.

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Wouldnt QQ atleast bet out on the turn?
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Old 11-28-2007, 06:46 PM
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Default Re: PL100 fullhouse reraised on turn

I would raise the river. I expect to find Q8 more often than QQ here. You guys think villain wouldn't play 8Q or 89 the same way here? So, just calling river is bad... he is never folding a FH
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Old 11-28-2007, 11:54 PM
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Default Re: PL100 fullhouse reraised on turn

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I would raise the river. I expect to find Q8 more often than QQ here. You guys think villain wouldn't play 8Q or 89 the same way here? So, just calling river is bad... he is never folding a FH

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Yeah, shove river.
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Old 11-29-2007, 12:31 AM
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Default Re: PL100 fullhouse reraised on turn

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I would raise the river. I expect to find Q8 more often than QQ here. You guys think villain wouldn't play 8Q or 89 the same way here? So, just calling river is bad... he is never folding a FH

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QQ, Q8, and 88 play the hand like this (98 if he's spewy).

We beat one of those.

If this flop was 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

And it checked around.

Then the turn was the 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Then let's say you bet with the Q high flush and got raised... are you calling and then raising a blank river when bet into? No.

The only difference is that there is a chance that someone plays Q8 as if it is the nuts. But that's why we call the river (as opposed to the flush hand where a river fold is usually correct).
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