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Old 09-24-2007, 07:10 PM
BJJIII BJJIII is offline
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Default $100NL, KK on button facing UTG limp raise

I know this isnt medium stakes, but I would like an opinion on this from two different stake levels.

Ok so my buddy and I had different opinions on the way this hand was played. Does the A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] on the flop discount the chance of him having AA enough to continue with the hand?


Do you continue with the hand or give it up?

What do you all think?

villain is 17/14/4 after 50 hands.
Hero is 17/7/3

Bodog No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

MP1 ($13.00)
MP2 ($103.75)
CO ($100.50)
<font color="#C00000">BJJIII ($98.50)</font>
SB ($59.80)
BB ($90.50)
<font color="#C00000">UTG ($100.00)</font>
UTG+1 ($166.50)

Preflop: BJJIII is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BJJIII raises to $5</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $16</font>, BJJIII calls $11.

Flop: ($33.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $19</font>, BJJIII ?
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Old 09-24-2007, 07:37 PM
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Default Re: $100NL, KK on button facing UTG limp raise

What's to say he wouldnt' do this with AK. I do this move with AK in loose games.
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Old 09-24-2007, 07:42 PM
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Default Re: $100NL, KK on button facing UTG limp raise

Call once see what he does on turn
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Old 09-24-2007, 07:51 PM
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Default Re: $100NL, KK on button facing UTG limp raise

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What's to say he wouldnt' do this with AK. I do this move with AK in loose games.

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Do you do this to try and play a big pot or do you do it with the intention of taking down the dead money? Do you think limp re-raising UTG w/ AK is a +EV play?


The game was playing pretty tight for a Bodog cash game.
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Old 09-25-2007, 08:08 AM
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Default Re: $100NL, KK on button facing UTG limp raise

Station or Genius?

Results posted. Am I a station or a genius for thinking this way?
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Old 09-25-2007, 08:12 AM
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Default Re: $100NL, KK on button facing UTG limp raise

Neither, this looks pretty much like a standard weird spot I encounter all the time.
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Old 09-25-2007, 09:04 AM
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Default Re: $100NL, KK on button facing UTG limp raise

well how do you play this weird spot?
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Old 09-25-2007, 11:59 AM
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Default Re: $100NL, KK on button facing UTG limp raise

I do it to get the dead money in the pot from the people weakly calling his raise. The thing is a loose maniac will raise my UTG limp with a FAR FAR wider range than he will call my UTG raise with. Alot of maniacs love to be the opener/leader going into the pot. If you raise you take that away. When you LRR AK you get all the people who are sick of the maniac and taking a stand with their QTo and J9o etc crap dead money when you LRR the maniac everyone gives you cred for QQ/AA/KK/AK because they know you expect the maniac to raise and you just trapped him. I'll generally get JJ/TT/AK and MAYBE, rarely but maybe QQ to fold from players whoa re too passive to 3bet JJ/TT/AK but will fold to your LRR.
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Old 09-25-2007, 12:19 PM
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Default Re: $100NL, KK on button facing UTG limp raise

good explanation.

Thanks.
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