5/10 Tough turn wpot with QQ 150BBs deep

[jaywks]

Okay, if you three bet flop do you fold to a shove?

[rand]

depends on villain and the pot odds, but for most i do
youre pretty much flipping or behind draws and your crushed by the rest of his range

[KvGalen]

3betting the flop and then folding to a shove is terrible,

[rand]

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3betting the flop and then folding to a shove is terrible,

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i was gonna say that it depends on the raise size but i think its impossible for it to be small enough that a fold is good, so youre right

[Neuman101]

i might raise flop, but i would not raise turn...He would never fold KJdd or the like on this turn, and he is very unlikely to call with anything that your far ahead of. You arent that deep, on a drawy flop, i dont think its terrible to stack off with QQ...as played, i like a call...

also, for those who say he would not raise with JJ...i find that when people smooth call with pairs JJ-AA, they usually look to raise with their overpair on the flop... im not saying its right or wrong, but its what i notice...

[futuredoc85]

if hes solid i would fold since most of the draws he's declining the free card w/ on the turn have a K in them.

[Etats360]

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if hes solid i would fold since most of the draws he's declining the free card w/ on the turn have a K in them.

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KdQd, what else?

[futuredoc85]

Any other KdXd. I think his turn bet makes KdXd a lot more likely than any other diamond draw.

[Unknown Soldier]

if the 4 was a 2 would be a pretty easy 3b, probably still 3b here though. As played, meh sick spot. Fold i think. Could have a air a decent amount of time though.

I'd like to hear more opinions.

[DeucesNeverLoses]

I def. like 3 betting this flop, to like 600 and call AI. His hand on turn looks like KQdd/KJdd. Even coming over the top AI is better than just calling. SO many bad cards can hit on the turn if he's on a combo-draw. a 3,4,6,7,8,T,J,K,A can potentially kill your hand, along w/ any diamond. I think you have best off this flop, since that was a pretty substantial raise, noting that your c-bet looks standard. In his spot, I raise hands like 67,A4dd,KJdd,68dd,etc... on this flop vs. hero.

As played however...calling this is REALLY bad on turn, since your really have no idea where you are at, what cards are good to river, and you don't have position. I fold.