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Old 10-29-2007, 12:23 AM
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Default Re: FTP $750K : M=60 : KK OOP facing turn shove rr on scary board

NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOUR RETARDED HANDS.
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Old 10-29-2007, 12:27 AM
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Default Re: FTP $750K : M=60 : KK OOP facing turn shove rr on scary board

gobbo, i've IM'd you about this enoguh times that i'm jsut gonna post it now..

quit being a douche! it's not like you.
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Old 10-29-2007, 12:50 AM
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Default Re: FTP $750K : M=60 : KK OOP facing turn shove rr on scary board

I think this is an interesting hand.

It would seem most likely that villain has walked into a nice combo-draw on the turn and is semi-bluffing. QJ JT seem likely, especially QdJd. Also, T8 98, 87, especially 8d7d. (I suppose AdXd is also possible.)

However, the mirror is also reasonable: villain made a nice hand on the flop (with TT 99 QT Q9 T9) and now puts hero on walking into a combo draw and is a bit over-zealous in protecting his hand.

If the former scenario, a call by hero would be especially +cEV since hero has two of the four Ks and the Kd.

I think the questions are:

1. How likely is the latter scenario ?
2. Are there any other hands we can put villain on ?
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Old 10-29-2007, 01:39 AM
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Default Re: FTP $750K : M=60 : KK OOP facing turn shove rr on scary board

Baltosar: 2/3 of your decisions this hand were incorrect.

The fact that we have to talk about your 4th is a result of your poor play from other spots in the hand.
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Old 10-29-2007, 01:57 AM
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Default Re: FTP $750K : M=60 : KK OOP facing turn shove rr on scary board

Why did you open limp?
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Old 10-29-2007, 02:26 AM
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Default Re: FTP $750K : M=60 : KK OOP facing turn shove rr on scary board

Balto,
Do you only lrr really good hands?
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Old 10-29-2007, 02:44 AM
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Default Re: FTP $750K : M=60 : KK OOP facing turn shove rr on scary board

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Old 10-29-2007, 02:50 AM
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Default Re: FTP $750K : M=60 : KK OOP facing turn shove rr on scary board

Do you have a read of villain? He bet on the draw? Is he tight or loose? How's your image?

"Full Tilt Poker
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Is this a tournament or cash game?

In tournaments, I call. (your weak turn bet would see a lot of loose shoves from draw+pair or combo draws, villain didn't put you on KK)

In cash games, I fold.
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Old 10-29-2007, 03:12 AM
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In tournaments, I call. (your weak turn bet would see a lot of loose shoves from draw+pair or combo draws, villain didn't put you on KK)

In cash games, I fold.

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what, why?
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Old 10-29-2007, 03:45 AM
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fold

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