KK, + dry pot + deepstack overcall

[JesseB_11]

Raise preflop. I might even min raise here to isolate. Bet flop as played.

[chrismystero]

Push preflop. No point minraising to isolate since your going to call either of the Blinds pushes anyways. This tough spot postflop could have been easily avoided.

[JammyDodga]

I think we are being a bit results orientated here guys. We aren't here to avoid tough spots, we are here to max EV.

I think the flat call pre was fine, we have a monster, and we will be in position against the blinds if they deciede to come along.

I think you should have led out on the flop though and then gone from there.

[All_Inn_Aces]

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Tough spots give you chances to make big mistakes, big mistakes are very -EV.

[JammyDodga]

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I think we are being a bit results orientated here guys. We aren't here to avoid tough spots, we are here to max EV.


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Well don't make big mistakes then...?? If poker was easy, it would be harder to win.

I don't actually think seeing a flop with KK in position, when you hand is reasonably under repped is a particularly tough spot, but whatever...

[Rocco]

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I think we are being a bit results orientated here guys. We aren't here to avoid tough spots, we are here to max EV.


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Tough spots give you chances to make big mistakes, big mistakes are very -EV.

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Well don't make big mistakes then...?? If poker was easy, it would be harder to win.

I don't actually think seeing a flop with KK in position, when you hand is reasonably under repped is a particularly tough spot, but whatever...

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Agree with Jammy here... What the hell is the matter with you people? How can you develop your poker skillz and maximize EV if your main goal is to avoid post-flop decisions? As Jammy said, we're in position and have the second best starting hand in Texas Hold'em. Geez!

OP, you have to bet the flop here, no doubt about it. As played, I'd fold to his river bet, he seems confident to have the best hand.

[LuckyLloyd]

A couple things regarding betting the flop:

- Stacksize of villian is such that you can't continuation bet / fold;
- When a short stack is all in most players take a "lets check it down mentallity". If he fires at us on the turn or river he will never be bluffing.
- As such, if you check back this flop and bet a checked turn you will be in a great spot to take value off one pair hands you beat. Particularly BECAUSE you checked the flop back.

I really do not believe that checking this flop is all that bad. It is an odd situation where we almost never get bluffed off the best hand and he will play kinda faceup on the turn and river for us.


As for everything else; calling pre is fine. Min raising would be retarded obv.

You have to call the turn. I hate the river spot because you are getting a sick price - but I think it is a fold.