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Old 11-28-2007, 01:58 PM
Proofrock Proofrock is offline
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Default Re: 1/2: 2 hands vs. a donkey

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I'm not worried about a bluff c/r I just think we can get more value.

As for betting the turn.. we have a draw but it's not to the nuts. I'd rather bet now and find out if I'm against 22/33 than hit the Qs on the river and have him go crazy. This, along with the fact that he's calling with random spades and a bunch of pocket pairs because we can't have trips ever makes me wanna bet the turn and make a decision on the river.

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I follow that. What I don't like is that I have decent equity vs. a naked king, but that's the most likely hand for him to check/raise an amount that I can't profitably call on the turn.

As in, if I improve on the river and he has trips I'll be able to raise and expect a call. If I don't improve on the river and he has trips I'll lose the same amount as if I checked the turn. Same thing with a boat, except I'm liable to lose more on the river if my hand improves.

Versus a flush draw betting the turn is better. Versus a smaller pair I think it's pretty evenly split, since I don't know if I get three streets out of them.

I'm not really a pot control nit or anything with my hand -- if it had been any other card that paired I'd be firing again here. I just felt like I'd be betting into trips too often and that I'd get paid sufficiently on the river.

I'm still sort of torn about this -- anything more you could add would be appreciated.
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Old 11-28-2007, 02:54 PM
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Default Re: 1/2: 2 hands vs. a donkey

But against trip kings, when there are 4 spades, he's probably not gonna pay off a river bet, unless he has the Qs or Js. There aren't many combos of KxQs or KxJs, and if one of the higher spades come.. how do we know he doesn't have a boat? I mean, if the Js comes, and he leads or check/raises.. he can have the Qs or he can have KJ or 22/33.
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