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Old 06-14-2007, 12:41 AM
A_PLUS A_PLUS is offline
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Default Re: Another 6max wsop hand

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But that's because his range is super wide.

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I think AT+, any pair, the OE straight draws, KQ, and a decent amount of air. I had a hard time knocking much out by the action. I got there with pretty much everything, excluding some % of the air.
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Old 06-14-2007, 01:09 AM
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Default Re: Another 6max wsop hand

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I don't think anyone is really trying to read bb's hand like at all.

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He could have a little as a 9, and as much as 99.....lots of hands there.

I think something like AJo or KJs is probable.
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Old 06-14-2007, 04:11 PM
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So I thought that I should be able to squeeze some value out of his most likely hands like top pair or two pair since my hand wasn't too obvious. I also was pretty sure that he's not shoving there w/ anything that I'm beating, so it looked like a good spot to raise/fold.

I was playing w/ my chips for a bit trying to determine how much I should raise when I finally flipped out three 500 chips for 1500. I guess he thought that I was contemplating a call/fold because he nearly turned his cards over before he realized I raised.
He gave me raised eyebrows and shrugged his shoulder as he took the chip off his cards, added it to his chip tower and one-handedly slid the whole thing into the pot for an allin.
I didn't turbo muck because I really wanted to see his cards, but alas, as i folded he didn't show.
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Old 06-14-2007, 04:47 PM
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Default Re: Another 6max wsop hand

How many chips did you have left after the raise?
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Old 06-14-2007, 05:13 PM
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Default Re: Another 6max wsop hand

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Hopefully this one won't be so trivial as the last one...

I am at my 2nd table of the day.

I had been at the table for about half a level and had been pretty ABC in terms of tightness and aggression. Table didn't seem as soft as my previous one and we were scheduled to break, so I wasn't going to risk too much unless I got in a good spot.

Blinds were 100-200 a25.
SB was virtually non-existant and BB had a decent stack and seemed like he sort of had a clue.

I opened on the button for 575 with 54s and only BB called.
I start the hand w/ 5500 and he has me slightly covered.

Pot is 1400.

Flop is J95r.

He checkcalls 600.

Turn is 8 and it goes check check.

River is 5 w/ no flushes possible and he leads for 700.

What's the plan?

I have 4325 left.

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Call.

His ranges doesn't have a single Jack.

At the river, he either has a boat/straight or a busted draw. Your raise will get no money (maybe a push back) from a busted draw. His turn check and bet the river is very dangerous for you. Never raise this river.
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Old 06-14-2007, 10:33 PM
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Call.

His ranges doesn't have a single Jack.

At the river, he either has a boat/straight or a busted draw. Your raise will get no money (maybe a push back) from a busted draw. His turn check and bet the river is very dangerous for you. Never raise this river.

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Minboggling analysis. Are you serious? Could you please give me the reason why he never has a J or two (three [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]) pair here?
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Old 06-14-2007, 10:41 PM
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I'd shove. I don't think there's any way he can put you on a 5.
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Old 06-14-2007, 11:11 PM
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How many chips did you have left after the raise?

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about 3k.
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Old 06-14-2007, 11:12 PM
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what about raise/folding?

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Of course not. Sorry he had you beat.

You are making a significant raise. If he reraises, you are probably beat, but at this point, you are getting big odds.

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I really don't get why so many people think we should jam this river. It makes no sense.
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Old 06-14-2007, 11:13 PM
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what about raise/folding?

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Of course not. Sorry he had you beat.

You are making a significant raise. If he reraises, you are probably beat, but at this point, you are getting big odds.

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I really don't get why so many people think we should jam this river. It makes no sense.

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It looks like a bluff. People often make hero calls in those spots. I sure would consider calling without that big a hand if I made a weak bet of 700.
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