A somewhat deep stacked decision

[SossMan]

I was going through my notes and I forgot to post this hand.

Bay101 $40 rebuy from a while ago. Right after the rebuy period, so stacks are still sorta deep. Players are still pretty terrible though.


I have been crazy during the rebuy period going all in preflop w/out looking a few times after a few allins. I have a stack of 25k. Blinds are 100-200 no antes.

Button villian is loose-passive. Likes to make bad flop calls in multiway hands w/ overcards and gives up on the turn when he doesn't hit. A raise from him preflop means two playable cards, a bet from him postflop means TP or better. A call means he hasn't folded yet. He also never believes me.

Two limpers in EP/MP and I get KK in the CO and peek left at the villian on the button. He looks perky, so I take a chance and limp behind.

He raises to 1k (he has ~28k), bb folds, one EP limper calls and it's on me.

I raise to 3500. He instacalls and limper looks bewildered and finally folds.

8300 in the pot and I have 21.5k left.

Flop is Q85r. I lead for 6k and he quietly calls somewhat quickly.

20k in the pot. Turn is a duece because the turn is always a duece on 2+2.

I have 15k left...what's my plan?

[Acein8ter]

Push...

[Acein8ter]

Also, I didn't know that Bay101 has NL games. I thought they were spread limit.

[mayesie]

I see no need to get fancy here, as he probably has a hand like AQ (this and QQ seem to be the only hands that can call the flop so quickly).

I shove the turn, and expect to win a nice pot (whether or not I'm called).

[mayesie]

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Also, I didn't know that Bay101 has NL games. I thought they were spread limit.

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They're called "Spread Limit", but the spread is wide enough to put a player all-in at any given point in time.

[J.A.K.]

I think a loose passive calls w/ AQ, 88, 55 pre. He is content to let you bet his set of Qs. I would rather be weak-tight and c/f turn than call off 75bb w/overpair. I do not see him floating JJ here with your 3bet preflop.

[registrar]

If he never believes you, you can check the turn because he'll call a river push with JJ but not a turn push.

[Proofrock]

He's a calling station and your description suggests he's not particularly good, especially with deep stacks. I figure this means he's calling with a number of worse hands. As such, I'm felting KK here. Pushing the turn seems like the most standard, straightforward way to accomplish it.

[nath]

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I think a loose passive calls w/ AQ, 88, 55 pre. He is content to let you bet his set of Qs. I would rather be weak-tight and c/f turn than call off 75bb w/overpair. I do not see him floating JJ here with your 3bet preflop.

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This defies everything about villain as he's described.

Soss, I think a push is fine, but the board is super dry, so I kinda like a check, because it gives him a better chance to commit with a worse hand. I'm not folding.

[mikeJ]

Check, planning to c/c, shove river if he checks behind. And you cannot get away from this hand against the described villain unless he has a massive tell.

Purpose of the check is so to increase likelihood he calls w/ any pair he called flop w/.