The full ring limit games are nowadays very hard?

[ihaveAdream]

I agree that the full ring games have gotten tougher/tighter. I suggest the same as someone else did; try short handed and see if it's something for you. The short handed games are softer for sure in my experience. Good luck.

[smbruin22]

last 3 times i've played B&M (i know, not what you asked), it's been maniacal, loose-passive and loose-aggressive (borderline maniacal)... and i've lost each time (100 BB losing streak, although i'd say in these maniacal and LAG games you need 500-600X bankroll)

my basic point is that B&M is going to remain reasonable loose forever as people don't have the patience, or can't multi-table or simply want to gamble.... it seems like 10-handed 4-8 limit (for instance) online has been taken over by multi-tabling TAG's.