4/180 AJ on AKx flop facing action

[usha]

This is early 4/180
villain shoving is 7/0 over 30 hands

Is this ever a weaker A from a such a tight passive player?
How do you like my flop call?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

MP1 (t1435)
MP2 (t6610)
Hero (t1770)
CO (t1825)
Button (t1565)
SB (t2280)
BB (t1380)
UTG (t5220)
UTG+1 (t2055)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls t50, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls t50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls t50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB checks.

Flop: (t225) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets t150</font>, Hero calls t150, Button calls t150, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t1330</font>, UTG folds, Hero folds

[usha]

Bump

[levAA]

7/0 means he played 2 hands from the last 30 - this is usually a tight player but i would be carefull - bad streaks are often 30 hands or longer, so be somehow careful with your read. with the 0 this can also mean he completed 2 times the SB.

so i would say tight yes, passive not necessarily.

Preflop: i think limping is ok, while i always prefer raising here as you get a better idea where you stand.

Flop: I think your first concern should be UTG! what kind of hands limp from UTG and then bet into 4 opponents with this flop? maybe Ax suited lower than AJ, or a complete donk with a medium PP? Maybe AQ or a slowplayed AA - still i think calling is the right decision here.

After the push from BB everything gets much more easy. UTG folds (think this was a very donkish play) and you have to decide if your AJ is good now.

If BB playes a better Ace AK, AQ he def. should have raised preflop being out of position. Overbetting the pot usually means a weak ace or something like KQ.

I think your AJ is good here.

[usha]

Think of it from BB's pov.
He checked shoved after seeing UTG limper bet into multiway pot and then 3 callers. Because of the tight read, I really think I'm behind as this is 22 or some lucky hand like A2 or K2. This shove from such a tight villain doesn't seem to me like Kx ever and AT- really seems stupid from this kind of villain, as he knows he will get a call from any A that limped in, no?

Bah

[Tackleberry]

As levAA said I would have been more concerned by UTG - betting into three opponents. If you characterize him as a loose player (how did he build his stack?) a call is good (as the only possibilities are fold/call/push).

As played I also tend to call the shove here (for the same reasons levAA stated).

And by the way - I wouldn´t be sure that "every A that limped" would call me ...

[Sherman]

I'd fold.

This is like A2,K2, or 22 everytime. I don't think he is ever check/raising a bare A against a bet and two callers.

[Butcho22]

Limping AJ here is so bad.

[Chicos75]

I would raise pre-flop to 200 most of the time.
As played, I would call the UTG bet and fold to the BB raise.

[usha]

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Limping AJ here is so bad.


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why?

[Sherman]

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Limping AJ here is so bad.

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Well. Yeah. I'd typically raise it from the HJ facing one limper. There is a good chance you pick up the pot PF and you are likely to have position post-flop if called.