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Old 08-23-2007, 09:04 PM
Chicos75 Chicos75 is offline
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Default JJ Facing Raise and All-in Re-raise

Early in a $2 MTT
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Button (t4590)
SB (t2395)
Hero (t2555)
UTG (t6375)
UTG+1 (t1350)
MP1 (t1490)
MP2 (t2555)
MP3 (t490)
CO (t1580)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t150</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to t490</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, UTG calls t340.

Flop: (t1055) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: (t1055) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t1055) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t1055
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Old 08-23-2007, 11:23 PM
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Default Re: JJ Facing Raise and All-in Re-raise

I guess folding is okay, but you can make the case for calling and 4-betting as well. If you had QQ it would be an easy 4-bet.
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Old 08-24-2007, 04:11 AM
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Default Re: JJ Facing Raise and All-in Re-raise

Early in a $2 MTT this is an easy shove. People get into raising wars with medium PP and weak aces all the time in those super donkfests.
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Old 08-24-2007, 04:20 AM
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Default Re: JJ Facing Raise and All-in Re-raise

I'd shove...you're ahead most of an average $2 MTT player's raising range even utg
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Old 08-24-2007, 09:06 AM
halpgr halpgr is offline
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Default Re: JJ Facing Raise and All-in Re-raise

The reraise all in is from a short stack. He's most likely a fish so I'm not too concerned about him. His range is pretty wide.

I like a preflop shove here to possibly isolate MP3 and if UTG calls there's only 3 hands out his range you're in bad shape against. Any read on how UTG got his big stack early?
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Old 08-24-2007, 10:28 AM
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Default Re: JJ Facing Raise and All-in Re-raise

Shove, shove, shove!

Barring any reads, I'd assume an UTG big-stack to have a pretty wide opening-range. Short-stack MP3 is pushing a wide range too, so shoving to isolate must be the best play by far.
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Old 08-24-2007, 10:37 AM
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Default Re: JJ Facing Raise and All-in Re-raise

Really easy shove. I mean, SS is waiting for 88+; AJo; who knows what UTG's range is, but I doubt it's QQ+; AK. Plus, it's a $2 MTT, so you can be ahead here a wholes bunch. I have to take a poop.

Barry
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Old 08-24-2007, 11:13 AM
HorridSludgyBits HorridSludgyBits is offline
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Default Re: JJ Facing Raise and All-in Re-raise

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Early in a $2 MTT this is an easy shove. People get into raising wars with medium PP and weak aces all the time in those super donkfests.

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My thoughts exactly. In a tournament where the players are semi-serious you can fold. This tournament plays like a freeroll.
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Old 08-24-2007, 11:49 AM
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Default Re: JJ Facing Raise and All-in Re-raise

When you shove you're shoving over 50BBs into UTG (who has you covered). That's a pretty high risk/reward. I know $2 tournaments are pretty soft, but unless you figure UTG is going to call with TT- some of the time I don't really like it. The bigger your shove, his calling range becomes more important than just his opening range.

Edit: If you had a stack of t1500 or so, then easy shove.
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