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#11
10-28-2007, 06:51 PM
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Re: Mill - fold KK on rag flop?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] This is a weird line to take with AA, cold calling the reraise and then min-raising the flop. He should of folded 88, and he'd be a moron to raise/call with A3,34s utg+2 Shove [/ QUOTE ] the original raiser folded, the button flatted it. [/ QUOTE ] Yes, I see it now..misread before. I would still get it in here, this can be done with JJ, your only really worried about 88 here. AA would of deff. reraised in a multi-way pot PF edit- and 88 doesnt belong here either, very easy fold after a reaise and a reraise with the original raiser still left to act [/ QUOTE ] AA can not be ruled out here. I'm not really worried about 88 tho. 
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#13
10-28-2007, 07:06 PM
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Re: Mill - fold KK on rag flop?
e z all in/ call neer fold
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#15
10-28-2007, 07:52 PM
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Re: Mill - fold KK on rag flop?
Doesn't shoving fold out QQ-TT and get called by AA (and 88 if he's bad enough to have it)?
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#16
10-28-2007, 08:12 PM
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Re: Mill - fold KK on rag flop?
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Doesn't shoving fold out QQ-TT and get called by AA (and 88 if he's bad enough to have it)? [/ QUOTE ] Nobody raise/folds this flop with the aforementioned hands. Shove please.
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#17
10-28-2007, 08:32 PM
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Re: Mill - fold KK on rag flop?
This does seem like a TT/JJ+ (i dont know the guy) and he is trying to find out if his overpair is good (he may fold to a 3b ai here). The question is whether we think he will stack off with TT-QQ here when he min-raised you.
1/3 of me wants to raise to 5k 1/3 of me wants to shove 1/3 of me wants to flat and c/c ai on turn or lead depending. Here, I think I am shoving b/c you are aggro and >50% of my stack is if I make this call. Damn, now im thinking about calling and insta- shoving turn b/c pot will be like 8k in pot and you would have 4k left would be hot.
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#18
10-28-2007, 08:39 PM
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Re: Mill - fold KK on rag flop?
shoving is exactly the same thing as calling or raising some other ammount.
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#20
10-28-2007, 11:36 PM
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Re: Mill - fold KK on rag flop?
even though he is obv a thinking player... how fast did he minraise? an immediate minraise in this spot looks more like aa or 88, but if he thought about it for a while he could have called w a pp for set value and decided to make a littttle move on this harmless flop. If i were you i could flat call and call a shove on the turn
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