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Old 09-18-2007, 01:44 AM
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If you score a touchdown down by 14 in the fourth quarter, you should go for two.

Everyone who plays Madden knows this. NFL coaches either do not know this, or are too afraid of the media to do it.

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I feel like a dumb [censored] for not realizing this before since the math is so obvious, but how can I have watched like 5 football games a week for years and never have heard anyone point this out before?

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Help me...you mean down by 14 'after" the uncoverted TD, or down by 8 after unconverted TD?? I'm slow....
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Old 09-18-2007, 01:50 AM
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Down by 14 before the touchdown.
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Old 09-18-2007, 01:50 AM
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If you score a touchdown down by 14 in the fourth quarter, you should go for two.

Everyone who plays Madden knows this. NFL coaches either do not know this, or are too afraid of the media to do it.

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I feel like a dumb [censored] for not realizing this before since the math is so obvious, but how can I have watched like 5 football games a week for years and never have heard anyone point this out before?

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Help me...you mean down by 14 'after" the uncoverted TD, or down by 8 after unconverted TD?? I'm slow....

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8.

Down by 14, then you score and have to decide.
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Old 09-18-2007, 01:57 AM
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down by 14...and then you score the TD and are down by 8. You should go for 2.
This one really isn't very easy to see which is why pretty much no teams out there do it.

I wouldn't be surprised if there was some high-school team out there who got it though since many of they coaches are also teachers at the school.
So put a fairly sharp math teacher in this position and maybe it happens. Throw in the fact that for many high-school teams the XP isn't going to be anywhere near 100%.
Speaking of which, to be fair I don't think they should be counted as 100% for NFL or NCAA calcs either. Also, it's a 2.5yd play that involves some added pressure for the offense because you only get one shot at it and there ain't a whole lot of field to work with or maneuver around.
I don't know what a team's success rate on 2-pt conversions is usually.
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Old 09-18-2007, 01:59 AM
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Since we are on the topic, I think it would be sick if the Colts just went the rest of the season going for 2 after every touchdown unless they are in certain situations.
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Old 09-18-2007, 02:01 AM
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sooner or later there has to be SOME team out there that figures it out.
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Old 09-18-2007, 02:04 AM
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sooner or later there has to be SOME team out there that figures it out.

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Have you ever brought math into a conversation with a run of the mill sports fan? I mentioned statistical variance to some of my brighter friends during a football game and they were like no way there is no place for math in this. Hell, it's surprising how many people don't get the concept of results oriented thinking.
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Old 09-18-2007, 02:05 AM
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Icing the kicker for a chipshot. Oops, now they're going for it. Oops, they scored a touchdown instead.

Nice job Reid.

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how bout calling your 2nd timeout to ice a kicker when up by 3 with 1 min left?

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Yeah, who was that? That was retarded. I remembered seeing that and was going to post it but I coulden't remember what game it was.

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bengals mlewis vs the steelers last year.
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Old 09-18-2007, 02:08 AM
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Doubt it's been mentioned but I was screaming at the screen (slight brag: watched the game on a movie theater screen in HD for free) watching the Packers-Giants game because AJ Hawk/other d-back refused to bump Shockey coming off the line while in man coverage. They just let him run his routes at full speed. It wouldn't take many of the dropped/overthrown balls to Shockey for the Pack to have lost. Linebacker coach needs to get his head out of his ass.
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Old 09-18-2007, 02:18 AM
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I don't know what a team's success rate on 2-pt conversions is usually.

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1998: 98 Attempts, 41%
1999: 77, 39%
2000: 78, 45%
2001: 84, 48%
2002: 93, 51%
2003: 62, 47%
2004: 77, 50%
2005: 50, 54%
2006: 35, 60%

From Pro Football Prospectus 2007, Page 452
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