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Old 10-28-2007, 11:21 PM
greg nice greg nice is offline
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Default Re: Poker News CUP ME Money Bubble hand

you put him on AA/AQ, nothing changes, so you decide to valuetown yourself on the river? i dont get it.
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Old 10-28-2007, 11:32 PM
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Default Re: Poker News CUP ME Money Bubble hand

checking flop might be better in this scenario.

after u bet, perfect.
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Old 10-29-2007, 12:03 AM
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Default Re: Poker News CUP ME Money Bubble hand

easy fold on the end, and i like the way you played it. no one instashoves that river as a bluff on the bubble, especially not with those stack sizes, they just dont do it. but he'll call with worse, and i disagree with his range for flatting the flop, people can definitely show up with QJ/QT here.
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Old 10-29-2007, 02:09 AM
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Default Re: Poker News CUP ME Money Bubble hand

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you put him on AA/AQ, nothing changes, so you decide to valuetown yourself on the river? i dont get it.

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Like i said, it's possible he shows up with QJ/QTwwww, but yes those seemed like his most probable hands. I really wasn't comfortable calling 100k or a shove on the river, so the river is basically a blocking/value.

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Old 10-29-2007, 11:15 AM
Todd Terry Todd Terry is offline
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you put him on AA/AQ, nothing changes, so you decide to valuetown yourself on the river? i dont get it.

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Like i said, it's possible he shows up with QJ/QTwwww, but yes those seemed like his most probable hands. I really wasn't comfortable calling 100k or a shove on the river, so the river is basically a blocking/value.

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I think QJ and QT bet the turn here always. At that point, there's almost as much in the pot as in Villain's stack. There's a flush draw and pair on board, you could easily have AK, he's not giving you a free card at this stage in the tournament. When he checks behind, I think his range is 90% {boat, quads}.
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Old 10-29-2007, 12:22 PM
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Default Re: Poker News CUP ME Money Bubble hand

Check the river and then you have an option of calling a value bet.

Check on the turn looks like a boat IMO
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Old 10-29-2007, 06:47 PM
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Default Re: Poker News CUP ME Money Bubble hand

bet folding would normally be ok if you thought villain was capable of calling worse but here you have to trust your flop read and c/f the river
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