Third nut flush and ok low $200 PLO8 stars

[MattS]

This is a tough hand to play in a multiway pot oop. I have often bet such a hand myself on the flop, but I am not sure that it is the best play. Essentially you are hoping to win the pot directly on the flop. If someone raises you can fold. But most of the time someone will call and you will face difficult decisions for your entire stack on the two remaining betting rounds.

Moreover the turn play you have mentioned

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if i doo bet and especially the button does raise, and he is very capable of re-raising a naked nut low, or a low with a worse flush draw, or even a nut low with something like two pair.... then what do i do,...

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is especially nasty (I know it because I use it myself pretty often [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]) and should influence your play on the flop.

Therefore I vote for a check on the flop. You will see how all the other players react before you have to put money in the pot. For example after a bet and a raise you can safely muck your hand. And if all players check you will have controlled the size of the pot and will know that your flush is probably the best for high. Moreover a check disguises the strength of your hand pretty well. These are the same reasons presented by tvent37 to check the turn but should rather be used to determine the best play on the flop imo.

I admit that a check will not simplify your decisions on the turn and river if Button bets. But it is the most flexible line overall imo.

After that turn card I prefer a check-raise because it is the most aggressive move and avoids any tough decision on the river.

[GaZaZaZa]

thanks matts... the reason i am being isnt entirely to win the pot here and now... dont get me wrong its a large part of it, but not the only reason...the other reason is to figure out were i stand, quickly and cheaply... as ive stated before i am FAIRLY confident that both of these opponents would raise a higher flush, co may not raise k-high flush.. which come to think of it is what i suspect he had...so that by betting if i get raised on the flop, to me its an easy lay down, if i dont get raised i assume with a fair, not definate, but fair amount of certainty that i am good.. by checking the flop i am forcing myself to call three big bets, or at least two, on flop and turn, with a mediocer two way hand.... something which i reaaaly dont like and feel comfortable doing, especially in a multi way pot

[MattS]

If you are convinced that your opponents play straightforward and anounce the strength of their hands immediately I agree that a bet will be the best play.

But trickier opponents should just call your flop bet with monsters like A2s-A4s and maybe even with the bare nut flush. They will call also with nut low draw + something. I think betting out directly on the flop is not your best option then.