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Old 03-05-2007, 06:43 AM
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Default Did Villain Make a MIstake in This Hand?

If so which street?

Button knows I'm a TAG, I know he's a TAG, and we both know SB is a Donk.

Preflop: Button raises, SB calls, I call with A8o.

Flop: A24r. Button bets, SB calls, I checkraise, they both call.

Turn 2. SB checks, I bet, Button instaraises, SB folds, I call.

River is a T. I check, Button checks.

Button had A7o.
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Old 03-05-2007, 06:50 AM
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Default Re: Did Villain Make a MIstake in This Hand?

You c/r'ing the field on the flop is showing a lot of strength on this flop so his turn raise is debateable. On the other hand you didnt 3-bet preflop so AK-AJ should be out of your range depending on your preflop tendencies.

I am not saying his turn raise is a mistake, just saying its close. After you c/r the flop I would just call down most turns and rivers.
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Old 03-05-2007, 06:53 AM
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Default Re: Did Villain Make a MIstake in This Hand?

The turn raise was bad. The SB is either ahead or drawing to 4 outs at best, and the villain should know that he could easily be behind after you c/r the flop in a protected pot.

Also, I'm betting the river if I'm raising that turn vs. a TAG.
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Old 03-05-2007, 09:29 PM
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Default Re: Did Villain Make a MIstake in This Hand?

Yeah I think villain should've bet the turn river if he raised the turn. Give me a chance to make a mistake on the river.
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Old 03-05-2007, 10:33 PM
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Default Re: Did Villain Make a MIstake in This Hand?

The turn raise is a clear error. He should play for overcalls. By going for the free showdown he risks a crushing 3-bet and tends to drive out SB who probably doesn't have odds to chase.

Betting the river might be consistent but it's still wrong. He's certainly an underdog if called.
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Old 03-05-2007, 11:33 PM
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Default Re: Did Villain Make a MIstake in This Hand?

I'm not sure why you posted the hand like this. It biases the responses.

You should have simply posted the hand from the villain's perspective.


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Old 03-06-2007, 05:17 AM
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Default Re: Did Villain Make a MIstake in This Hand?

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The turn raise is a clear error. He should play for overcalls. By going for the free showdown he risks a crushing 3-bet and tends to drive out SB who probably doesn't have odds to chase.


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Old 03-06-2007, 09:03 PM
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Default Re: Did Villain Make a MIstake in This Hand?

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The turn raise is a clear error. He should play for overcalls. By going for the free showdown he risks a crushing 3-bet and tends to drive out SB who probably doesn't have odds to chase.

Betting the river might be consistent but it's still wrong. He's certainly an underdog if called.

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I don't think betting the river is wrong. Villain splits with any kicker under ten and wins 5 more big bets if a weak ace folds. Wouldn't it be worthwhile for him to take that chance?
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Old 03-07-2007, 12:17 AM
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I don't think betting the river is wrong. Villain splits with any kicker under ten and wins 5 more big bets if a weak ace folds. Wouldn't it be worthwhile for him to take that chance?

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Betting an ace is a bluff? Exactly what kind of image do you have [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]?

There is absolutely no way you should be folding an ace on the river at 11-1.
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Old 03-07-2007, 08:32 PM
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I don't think betting the river is wrong. Villain splits with any kicker under ten and wins 5 more big bets if a weak ace folds. Wouldn't it be worthwhile for him to take that chance?

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Betting an ace is a bluff? Exactly what kind of image do you have [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]?

There is absolutely no way you should be folding an ace on the river at 11-1.

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You're right, there should be no way I'm folding this river.
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