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Old 10-19-2007, 01:27 AM
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Default JT flops 2 pair, river puts 3flush on board

10 NL

Hero $10
CO $14

First hand at table.

CO open limps, SB completes, I check my J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Flop ($.30)
J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
SB checks, I bet $.30, CO calls, SB folds.

Turn ($.90)
6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
I bet $.75, CO calls.

River ($2.40)
A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
I have no idea what to do and decide to bet $.80, planning to fold to any sizeable raise. Seem ok?
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Old 10-19-2007, 01:29 AM
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Default Re: JT flops 2 pair, river puts 3flush on board

I don't like that card for a few more reasons than flush. Check/call hopefully induce bluff.
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Old 10-19-2007, 01:34 AM
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Default Re: JT flops 2 pair, river puts 3flush on board

True, could have made better 2pair or straight draw. How big of a bet are you willing to call if you check? Half pot?
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Old 10-19-2007, 01:44 AM
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Default Re: JT flops 2 pair, river puts 3flush on board

bet fold is good check call is horrible
why would you induce a bluff when every draw just got there? Checking just lets him check behind hands like KJ and bet when he rivered us.
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Old 10-19-2007, 01:48 AM
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Default Re: JT flops 2 pair, river puts 3flush on board

I would just c/f. I guess b/f is fine against a station, but even passive fish will sometimes bluff raise you here.
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Old 10-19-2007, 01:55 AM
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Default Re: JT flops 2 pair, river puts 3flush on board

I'm just trying to think what he could call a bet with. Maybe KJ, QT, KT, 9T? Meh. Not much. Those are pretty loose calls obv. Not sure what he might BET with that we beat either... some tard with a low pair? Or, he's just called two streets with intent on bluffing river. That's about it. Hard to believe he does these that much. Maybe this is c/f afterall.
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Old 10-19-2007, 01:57 AM
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Default Re: JT flops 2 pair, river puts 3flush on board

That was sort of my dilemma.

I considered check-call but it seemed like I'd only be paying off better hands most of the time, occasionally a bluff. But the bluffs would probably be around pot-sized and I wouldn't pay that much to find out.

I considered check-folding but I could definitely be ahead here still.

That left me with bet-fold. I wanted to bet as small as I could get away with but still get enough respect that I wouldn't be bluff-raised very often. Does 1/3 pot seem good enough? Would 1/4 pot work as well? Would 1/2 pot be better?
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Old 10-19-2007, 02:06 AM
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Default Re: JT flops 2 pair, river puts 3flush on board

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I considered check-folding but I could definitely be ahead here still.

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Sure, you're often ahead when you get to the river. But how often are you ahead when you check the river and he bets?
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