QQ, 2 1/2 stacks, WTF?

[dchz]

very interesting hand
stats for UTG: 61/26, but only over 43 hands,
CO: 33/8 over 91 hands, he's tried to take a hand away from me earlier but i was slow playing a FH, and didn't pay me off when i bet/3bet AI on turn


Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $210.70
BB: $200.00
<u>UTG: $97.30</u>
Hero (MP): $329.70
<u>CO: $92.75</u>
BTN: $282.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $7.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $26.00</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $45.00</font>, 3 folds, UTG calls $38.00, Hero calls $19.00

Flop: ($138) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets all-in for $52.30</font>,


further comments welcome

[Nick Royale]

RR ai preflop and it's not close with the fish in and with those stacks.

[Jamougha]

[censored] it they're short and dopey, go all in everywhere.

[dchz]

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[censored] it they're short and dopey, go all in everywhere.

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is no one afraid of the CO raise? note the small sample size, but they do only have 1/2 stacks,

i put initial raiser on JJ and the CO on AA,

how far off am i?

[Nick Royale]

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[censored] it they're short and dopey, go all in everywhere.

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is no one afraid of the CO raise? note the small sample size, but they do only have 1/2 stacks,

i put initial raiser on JJ and the CO on AA,

how far off am i?

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I would put the fish on TT-22, suited broadways, AK/AQ/AJ and probably a few other suited hands. CO's range AA-JJ/AK, although his small re-raising size makes me tilt that range a bit more heavier towards AA/KK. Given that CO isn't a genius he will show up with some other trash a not insignificant portion of the time.

On the flop UTG can have AJ/KJ/QJ/fd or a set or even something completely retarded like a lower PP because he's an aggressive fish, CO is still on the same range obv.

[dchz]

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[censored] it they're short and dopey, go all in everywhere.

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is no one afraid of the CO raise? note the small sample size, but they do only have 1/2 stacks,

i put initial raiser on JJ and the CO on AA,

how far off am i?

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I would put the fish on TT-22, suited broadways, AK/AQ/AJ and probably a few other suited hands. CO's range AA-JJ/AK, although his small re-raising size makes me tilt that range a bit more heavier towards AA/KK. Given that CO isn't a genius he will show up with some other trash a not insignificant portion of the time.

On the flop UTG can have AJ/KJ/QJ/fd or a set or even something completely retarded like a lower PP because he's an aggressive fish, CO is still on the same range obv.

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if this is true ti's still a fold on the flop?

or do you call?

or just put it AI PF?

[Nick Royale]

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[censored] it they're short and dopey, go all in everywhere.

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is no one afraid of the CO raise? note the small sample size, but they do only have 1/2 stacks,

i put initial raiser on JJ and the CO on AA,

how far off am i?

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I would put the fish on TT-22, suited broadways, AK/AQ/AJ and probably a few other suited hands. CO's range AA-JJ/AK, although his small re-raising size makes me tilt that range a bit more heavier towards AA/KK. Given that CO isn't a genius he will show up with some other trash a not insignificant portion of the time.

On the flop UTG can have AJ/KJ/QJ/fd or a set or even something completely retarded like a lower PP because he's an aggressive fish, CO is still on the same range obv.

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if this is true ti's still a fold on the flop?

or do you call?

or just put it AI PF?

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I put it in preflop. Running a sim vs those ranges we'll have about 40% equity. On the flop our equity actually hasn't changed much assuming utg will push any fd/J/set which seems reasonable. So given the call I call the push.

Getting away anywhere with QQ vs 2 1/2-stacks, one of them being a huge fish is impossible.

[Nielsio]

I have a rule:

If villain has 65bbs or less then I'm gonna get it all in preflop if I have QQ, no matter what. Above that, I'll start to evaluate and maybe think of other lines.

[Bulletproof Monk]

im very scared of CO's raise here, but once UTG coldcalls it i think you need to shove over the top given stacksizes