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Old 08-29-2007, 08:20 AM
Kimpan Kimpan is offline
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Default 99 vs minraiser.

How should I play this..
raise flop?

PartyPoker $100 NL Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(5 handed)</font> HandRecorder v0.9b

Stacks &amp; Stats
CO ($177.03)
SB ($92.50)
BB ($146.50)
MP ($110.23) (53/20/oo/38) (15h)
Hero ($110.88)

Preflop: Hero is BU with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#FF0000">MP raises to $2</font>, CO calls $2, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises to $9.50</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP calls $7.50, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>.

Flop: ($22.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">MP bets $15</font>, Hero calls $15.

Turn: ($52.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#FF0000">Hero bets $35</font>, MP calls $35.

River: ($122.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">MP bets $50.73 (all-in)</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $173.23.
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Old 08-29-2007, 08:24 AM
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Default Re: 99 vs minraiser.

I don't think he folds better or continues with worse if you raise the flop. Honestly, i think checking the turn and either calling the river or betting like half pot if it gets checked to you is the best line. This isn't a board you can really stack off with 9s even though he minraised utg. As played, im actually leaning towards a fold although his line is kind of weird, but he doesnt seem concerned about the ace or king hitting which should be helping our calling range out a ton. Especially with the odds you're being given he can't possibly think you're folding anything decent which is why I think this is a fold, since all we realy beat is some complex bluff or something like 78 of diamonds.
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Old 08-29-2007, 08:31 AM
Kimpan Kimpan is offline
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Default Re: 99 vs minraiser.

I might fold out JJ, QQ on the turn.
I don't want to give overcards a free chance to hit on river.
I shouldn't take a stab at this turn?
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Old 08-29-2007, 08:42 AM
Demogorgon Demogorgon is offline
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Default Re: 99 vs minraiser.

What's his went to showdown? I doubt a 53/20 ever folds QQ or JJ to a turn bet. I like TTgirls line, check behind turn to keep the pot small and either call or vbet most rivers.

As played you have to be good about 22% of the time but I really dont think you are so good fold.
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Old 08-29-2007, 08:42 AM
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Default Re: 99 vs minraiser.

reads on him? im almost always raising the flop, probably checking behind turn and folding to a big river bet. depends on reads tho.. sometimes i'll double barrel.
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Old 08-29-2007, 08:45 AM
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Default Re: 99 vs minraiser.

(53/20/oo/38) (15h)
wtsd is 38, only 15 hands so this doesn't say anything..
He is unknown basically.
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Old 08-29-2007, 08:51 AM
Demogorgon Demogorgon is offline
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Default Re: 99 vs minraiser.

Aha I thought 38 was the amt of hands. Even though it's only 15 hands his VPIP/PFR might well be close to the actual number. Well regardless, it's pretty hard for you to rep a king here and the utg minraise combined with his stats indicate that he's bad so he most likely will not fold those type of hands.
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Old 08-29-2007, 09:42 AM
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Default Re: 99 vs minraiser.

Whoa whoa whoa. Do not bet this turn.

Rest is fine.
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Old 08-29-2007, 09:51 AM
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Default Re: 99 vs minraiser.

I call here alot, but I think I should raise more. Calling w/ a hand like this can put you in tough spots on the turn and river when overcards are on the board. If you raise, then you won't have to worry about that.

You will also get looked up more often when you have huge hands if you have been raising in spots like these.
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Old 08-29-2007, 09:53 AM
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Default Re: 99 vs minraiser.

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I don't think he folds better or continues with worse if you raise the flop.

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You aren't getting much out of worse hands here anyways. Also, if hero is beat, it's probably better to find out on the flop than to wait until later streets where the betting is bigger and the decisions are tougher.
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