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Old 11-29-2007, 05:27 AM
bigbabyjesus bigbabyjesus is offline
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Default Re: 400NL: Over pair, ugly flop, semi-deep.

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What are MPs stats? That will affect the villains range that he sees the flop with.

Against a range of JJ-88 QhQd is a slight favorite.

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If he's calling all of those he's calling 77.

And he's not playing JJ and 99 the same way all the time, either. I would not expect a minraise with such hands as that nearly as often as he's minraising a set.

Given all this there's still a chance the pot is too big.
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Old 11-29-2007, 05:51 AM
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Default Re: 400NL: Over pair, ugly flop, semi-deep.

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What are MPs stats? That will affect the villains range that he sees the flop with.


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17/15 after about 50 hands.
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Old 11-29-2007, 05:54 AM
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Default Re: 400NL: Over pair, ugly flop, semi-deep.

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What are MPs stats? That will affect the villains range that he sees the flop with.


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17/15 after about 50 hands.

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For what it's worth, I think that adds more weight towards JJ - but otherwise not too too important.

I still haven't really said what I'd do. FWIW, I think the minraise represents a lot more strength than a shove and fold but I also like betting less on the flop.
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Old 11-29-2007, 05:21 AM
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Default Re: 400NL: Over pair, ugly flop, semi-deep.

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aween

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which god should we pray to that he has 99?
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Old 11-29-2007, 05:31 AM
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Default Re: 400NL: Over pair, ugly flop, semi-deep.

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which god should we pray to that he has 99?

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You're a glass-is-half-empty type of guy, huh?
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Old 11-29-2007, 06:11 AM
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Default Re: 400NL: Over pair, ugly flop, semi-deep.

Shoving is overkill, I like a flop check.
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Old 11-29-2007, 06:13 AM
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You're a glass-is-half-empty type of guy, huh?

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Heh, something like that. I've only ever seen tags call/call one type of hand pre here, and it ain't pretty for our equity.
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Old 11-29-2007, 06:26 AM
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You're a glass-is-half-empty type of guy, huh?

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Heh, something like that. I've only ever seen tags call/call one type of hand pre here, and it ain't pretty for our equity.

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villain is 36/19/1.75.

that vpip combined with AF = fishy
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