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#1
11-30-2007, 05:16 PM
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Re: *** Official NY Mets Our OFFSEASON Has Come Thread ***
So which of Schnieder or Church is going to pitch? Cause that is what we needed right? I got an idea, lets let Church play first and trade Delgado for Mota.
Even if Milledge was overrated now if we want a pitcher Gomez has to be the guy, which leaves us with F-Mart as our only young outfielder prospect. Hm... 
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11-30-2007, 05:28 PM
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Re: *** Official NY Mets Our OFFSEASON Has Come Thread ***
wynton, or someone, explain to me how church has more trade value???? i saw the above OPS stats, etc etc etc...i get it...he's more than serviceable and he's cost-effective for several years...
that being said, i didn't even want milledge and i didn't honestly think the mets would keep him around, so i was expecting a trade, but seriously...this is what we got??? come on, milledge might not nearly as touted as he was before, but come on, he still generates interest i'm sure... i was hoping for pitching, if we had gotten decent pitching, i would have happy, i really would have been...our pen is weak, our rotation is old, this team needed help in the worst way there... and we trade one of our best chips away for an OF and a 3rd catcher (at the moment)???? who cares for this, has the reasons for the collapse completely eluded minaya when he made this trade?? regardless of his drop in value, he was still a solid chip because of his age and potential and he goes and throws him away for a good who's at best possibly better than him?? who cares for the different stages of development, milledge wasn't going to be on this team next year anyway, y would we care how long it would take milledge to develop?? minaya, please do me a favor and trade gomez for sexson and complete the [censored] process minaya is coming on the fan right now, plz [censored] tear him up
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#3
11-30-2007, 05:31 PM
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Re: *** Official NY Mets Our OFFSEASON Has Come Thread ***
thankfully mike and the mad dog don't think of this as being a good trade and are pushing it a bit at the beginning of the interview here
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#4
11-30-2007, 05:49 PM
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Re: *** Official NY Mets Our OFFSEASON Has Come Thread ***
the only thing that minaya has said that wasn't stupid in this interview is that there is no one being offered out there that he would consider trading reyes for...
otherwise, this was stupid, he's harping on this was all he could get for milledge, [censored], even if his value has dropped, he could have been packaged, packaged [censored], for a pitcher... ugh, and what is with torrealba possibly suing the mets...just annoying
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#5
11-30-2007, 05:57 PM
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Re: *** Official NY Mets Our OFFSEASON Has Come Thread ***
There are a number of young OFs (thinking of LA and T.B.)on the trade market, so everyone thinking Milledge would draw an all-star is not being realistic. Two years ago no one wanted to trade him because his perceived value was high, and now everyone wanted to flip him for a stud pitcher. Well guess what, his trade value (evidenced by this trade) has gone down. Church is solid (somewhat popular in D.C. actually). Scheider signed an inflated contract a couple years ago (4 for $24M if I recall correctly) but is a solid catcher.
If I was a Mets fan, I would be still be disappointed with the trade. However, I think it is actually a disappointment that that Milledge's value was not higher. This causes regret that Omar did not sell high 1 year ago.
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11-30-2007, 05:59 PM
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Re: *** Official NY Mets Our OFFSEASON Has Come Thread ***
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There are a number of young OFs (thinking of LA and T.B.)on the trade market, so everyone thinking Milledge would draw an all-star is not being realistic. Two years ago no one wanted to trade him because his perceived value was high, and now everyone wanted to flip him for a stud pitcher. Well guess what, his trade value (evidenced by this trade) has gone down. Church is solid (somewhat popular in D.C. actually). Scheider signed an inflated contract a couple years ago (4 for $24M if I recall correctly) but is a solid catcher. If I was a Mets fan, I would be still be disappointed with the trade. However, I think it is actually a disappointment that that Milledge's value was not higher. This causes regret that Omar did not sell high 1 year ago. [/ QUOTE ] Unfortunately your post highlights the circularity of the concept of value and presumes that Omar has the same concepts of value as people in this thread. We can't know what Minaya could've gotten for Milledge, but it seems awfully clear that if this was the best he could've gotten, he should hold on to him.
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#7
11-30-2007, 06:06 PM
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Re: *** Official NY Mets Our OFFSEASON Has Come Thread ***
jeez, i didn't even notice schnedier had a 4/24 until abreu brought it up, perfect, icing on the cake, we get scrued in talent and in salary...
i guess a lot of us are disappointed because milledge was so highly touted just a couple of years ago...i don't really fault minaya for holding onto him and rolling the dice, but yea, like triumph said, holding onto milledge would have been better than this... regardless, we traded him for help in the wrong area and we got scrued...is minaya serious that he could not find even an average RP for this guy and decided to take this garbage offer instead??
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11-30-2007, 07:10 PM
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Re: *** Official NY Mets Our OFFSEASON Has Come Thread ***
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Scheider signed an inflated contract a couple years ago (4 for $24M if I recall correctly) but is a solid catcher. [/ QUOTE ] This is incorrect. Before the 2006 season Schneider signed a 4 year, $16m deal. Right now he has about $9m owed to him the next 2 years. Not really an "inflated" contract, especially when Torrealba (virtually the same hitter but way worse defensively) just signed for 2 years at $7m.
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11-30-2007, 07:30 PM
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Re: *** Official NY Mets Our OFFSEASON Has Come Thread ***
[ QUOTE ]
There are a number of young OFs (thinking of LA and T.B.)on the trade market, so everyone thinking Milledge would draw an all-star is not being realistic. Two years ago no one wanted to trade him because his perceived value was high, and now everyone wanted to flip him for a stud pitcher. Well guess what, his trade value (evidenced by this trade) has gone down. Church is solid (somewhat popular in D.C. actually). Scheider signed an inflated contract a couple years ago (4 for $24M if I recall correctly) but is a solid catcher. If I was a Mets fan, I would be still be disappointed with the trade. However, I think it is actually a disappointment that that Milledge's value was not higher. This causes regret that Omar did not sell high 1 year ago. [/ QUOTE ] If Millege's value is so low, why trade him at all?
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