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Old 11-30-2007, 08:31 PM
Slim Pickens Slim Pickens is offline
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Default nl100: two weak overpair hands

These two hands are against the same Villain. Here are the relevant stats (I think) as I saw them during the hands. We don't have a history other than what you see here.

171 hands
Preflop: 27/16 (7% 3-bet, 0/7/7% EP/LP/blinds)

Flop play: AF = 3.9 broken down r/c/f = 15/31/54 out of 53 possible actions. Called c-bet 8/13 times.

Turn play: r/c/f = 0/41/59 out of 31 turn actions.

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Hand #1
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
4 players
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Stack sizes:
Hero: $104.60
Button: $141.30
SB: $68.90
BB: $100

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $4</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $11</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($23.5, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($23.5, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets $14</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $38</font>, Button calls.

River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($99.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero is all-in $55.6</font>, Button calls.

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Hand #2
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
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Stack sizes:
Hero: $139.65
UTG+1: $143.45
CO: $76
Button: $182.90
SB: $127.10
BB: $71.55

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $4</font>, UTG+1 calls, 4 folds.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($9.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $7</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($23.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $20</font>, UTG+1 calls.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($63.5, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $63.5</font>, Hero calls.
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Old 11-30-2007, 09:16 PM
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Default Re: nl100: two weak overpair hands

fold river in hand two, you dont beat anything there imo.
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Old 11-30-2007, 09:43 PM
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Default Re: nl100: two weak overpair hands

1 is standard - 2 is ez fold for sure.
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Old 11-30-2007, 09:51 PM
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Default Re: nl100: two weak overpair hands

what was your plan for checking into him on hand#1..deception? slow the pot down? CR?

IMO i lead the flop here

Hand number two i think he will show you a missed flush with overs or an eight enough to make the call profitable.
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:24 PM
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Default Re: nl100: two weak overpair hands

#1 is fine, there are a bunch of possible lines, but you got the cabbage in the middle on an undercard board, so w/e.

#2 is tougher, you just have to put him on a range. Obviously you are in sad shape if he is on mostly pairs. The PT stat "cold call preflop" is useful here, don't know if your HUD has it, as well as any kind of river agg stat, although the sample size will be small.
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Old 11-30-2007, 11:10 PM
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Default Re: nl100: two weak overpair hands

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what was your plan for checking into him on hand#1..deception? slow the pot down? CR?

IMO i lead the flop here

Hand number two i think he will show you a missed flush with overs or an eight enough to make the call profitable.

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Leading is so retarded in hand 1. Why are you leading? Why?
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Old 11-30-2007, 11:30 PM
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Default Re: nl100: two weak overpair hands

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what was your plan for checking into him on hand#1..deception? slow the pot down? CR?

IMO i lead the flop here

Hand number two i think he will show you a missed flush with overs or an eight enough to make the call profitable.

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Leading is so retarded in hand 1. Why are you leading? Why?

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um because there are a lot of scare cards that can come if it gets checked through?

idk about you but i protect my hands oop
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Old 11-30-2007, 11:32 PM
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Default Re: nl100: two weak overpair hands

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what was your plan for checking into him on hand#1..deception? slow the pot down? CR?

IMO i lead the flop here

Hand number two i think he will show you a missed flush with overs or an eight enough to make the call profitable.

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Leading is so retarded in hand 1. Why are you leading? Why?

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um because there are a lot of scare cards that can come if it gets checked through?

idk about you but i protect my hands oop

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There aren't that many scarecards.

I guess you can lead if you want to fold out 75% of the hands we beat, many of which will stab at the flop if we check.
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Old 12-01-2007, 12:46 AM
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Default Re: nl100: two weak overpair hands

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what was your plan for checking into him on hand#1..deception? slow the pot down? CR?

IMO i lead the flop here

Hand number two i think he will show you a missed flush with overs or an eight enough to make the call profitable.

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Leading is so retarded in hand 1. Why are you leading? Why?

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um because there are a lot of scare cards that can come if it gets checked through?

idk about you but i protect my hands oop

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There aren't that many scarecards.

I guess you can lead if you want to fold out 75% of the hands we beat, many of which will stab at the flop if we check.

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um ..a lot of the hands we still have beat have good hand equity still. plz protect thx
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Old 12-01-2007, 02:00 AM
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Default Re: nl100: two weak overpair hands

hand 1 looks ok, if you c/ced turn i think youd have to call river bets so yeah i dont mind it.

hand 2 looks like a fold on the river to me.
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