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Old 11-30-2007, 12:14 PM
bubaloo bubaloo is offline
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Default TP2K, 3bet pot, facing minraise

this is like my 1st or 2nd orbit, villain is 60/10/3 over 20 hands that i datamined before i sat (so pretty insignificant)...

Pacific Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.5/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $100
UTG+1: $197.83
CO: $70.19
Button: $204.74
SB: $165.18
Hero: $100.88

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO calls, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $5</font>, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $16</font>, CO folds, Button calls.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($31.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $22</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $44</font>, Hero....?
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Old 11-30-2007, 12:25 PM
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Default Re: TP2K, 3bet pot, facing minraise

Situation sucks here, obv stats are fairly insignificant other than the fact that the villain is probably fairly loose.

It's pretty much shove/fold, and I could go either way
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Old 11-30-2007, 01:23 PM
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Default Re: TP2K, 3bet pot, facing minraise

What hands are you expecting a call from on this flop and that aren't already messing you up? C/c this flop. You have a gutter and a back door nut draw. See what develops on the turn before committing a bunch of chips.
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Old 11-30-2007, 01:35 PM
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Default Re: TP2K, 3bet pot, facing minraise

With this range, a shove doesn't look too bad.

Board: Jh Tc Ad
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 48.206% 43.37% 04.84% 36924 4119.00 { AcQc }
Hand 1: 51.794% 46.96% 04.84% 39978 4119.00 { AA, JJ-TT, A2s+, KQs, JTs, 98s, ATo+, KQo, JTo, 98o }

I Didn't notice how few hands the sample was over
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Old 11-30-2007, 01:43 PM
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Default Re: TP2K, 3bet pot, facing minraise

60/10/3... shove.
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Old 11-30-2007, 02:12 PM
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What hands are you expecting a call from on this flop and that aren't already messing you up? C/c this flop. You have a gutter and a back door nut draw. See what develops on the turn before committing a bunch of chips.

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If we call the flop, we've comitted almost 2/3rds of our stack. Can we really fold for 40 more, button is playing 200 bb's deep, but hero just has standard 100bb stack??
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Old 11-30-2007, 02:15 PM
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Default Re: TP2K, 3bet pot, facing minraise

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60/10/3... shove.

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Old 11-30-2007, 02:19 PM
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Default Re: TP2K, 3bet pot, facing minraise

I've been shown so many garbage aces in this spot against these guys. Typically they just call down but he's probably "protecting" his A8 since it is a drawy board. Even if he has AT/AJ you're not in that bad of shape.
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Old 11-30-2007, 02:30 PM
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I've been shown so many garbage aces in this spot against these guys. Typically they just call down but he's probably "protecting" his A8 since it is a drawy board. Even if he has AT/AJ you're not in that bad of shape.

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If he shows you he has AT or AJ a push is +EV!

We only need 31% equity against his range if he calls an all-in 100% of the time.
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Old 11-30-2007, 02:46 PM
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Default Re: TP2K, 3bet pot, facing minraise

I think given the villain, who's going to have a wider range than avg, probably correct to shove here.

Not that I like doing it too much.
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