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Old 11-29-2007, 03:41 PM
sh58 sh58 is offline
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Default donkbet why?

i have seen donkbets in 3bet pots before and they are almost always weak

so why this line here. villain has no reads on me as i have just sat and we haven't played before. if he datamines he probably sees me as 22/18. i have him as 18/18/4 over 200 datamined hands

Party Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
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CO: $47
sh58 (BTN): $200.80
SB: $343.85
BB: $366.45
UTG: $260.75

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to sh58 (BTN)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $7</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">sh58 raises to $22</font>, 2 folds, UTG calls $15

Flop: ($47) 7 6 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $31</font>, <font color="red">sh58 raises to $85</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $238.75 and is All-In</font>, sh58 calls $93.80 and is All-In

Turn: ($404.60) 5 (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($404.60) 6 (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $404.60 Pot ($2 Rake)
sh58 showed Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (two pairs, Queens and Sixes) and WON $402.60 (+$201.80 NET)
UTG showed T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T (two pairs, Tens and Sixes) and LOST (-$200.80 NET)

is he inducing a raise?

does anyone out there donkbet in 3bet pots, cos i don't understand why people would do it 100BB deep?
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Old 11-29-2007, 03:44 PM
Imrahil Imrahil is offline
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Default Re: donkbet why?

He doesn't have a clue so he probably flips a coin.
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Old 11-29-2007, 03:53 PM
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Default Re: donkbet why?

he probably thinks he has some fold equity w/ the lead, and then when you raise says "i look weak and he's raising w/ ak so [censored] him i arrin".

I would maybe consider leading with a strong hand every once in a while (because those leads do get raised a ton ime), but i've never actually done it and don't think i'm missing out on much.
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Old 11-29-2007, 03:56 PM
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Default Re: donkbet why?

He had an overpair and gutshot, he loved his 4 extra outs. But you're right, how can he think he's ahead when you 3-bet PF and raise him on the flop?

I play middle pairs much more cautiosly after being 3-bet PF, and would probaby c/f most flops. If I bet out and got raised, then I'd also have to fold, obv.
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Old 11-29-2007, 04:01 PM
therockofgibraltar therockofgibraltar is offline
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Default Re: donkbet why?

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I play middle pairs much more cautiosly after being 3-bet PF, and would probaby c/f most flops.

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please dont tell me you are only calling for set value? I think it is not profitable to call 3-bets with pp with 100bb stacks only for set value. Have to gamble sometimes.
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Old 11-29-2007, 04:03 PM
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Default Re: donkbet why?

because villain is an idiot
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Old 11-29-2007, 04:15 PM
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Default Re: donkbet why?

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I play middle pairs much more cautiosly after being 3-bet PF, and would probaby c/f most flops.

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please dont tell me you are only calling for set value? I think it is not profitable to call 3-bets with pp with 100bb stacks only for set value. Have to gamble sometimes.

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Ya, I set mine way too much. This a big leak in my game and I need to learn to play medium and small pocket pairs better. Would c/ring be a good line here sometimes?
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Old 11-29-2007, 06:16 PM
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Default Re: donkbet why?

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He had an overpair and gutshot, he loved his 4 extra outs. But you're right, how can he think he's ahead when you 3-bet PF and raise him on the flop?

I play middle pairs much more cautiosly after being 3-bet PF, and would probaby c/f most flops. If I bet out and got raised, then I'd also have to fold, obv.

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i would stack off against me with TT in that spot everytime, but the point is why donk when i will probably Cbet and then he can raise.
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Old 11-29-2007, 06:24 PM
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i would stack off against me with TT in that spot everytime, but the point is why donk when i will probably Cbet and then he can raise.

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Really? Seems like even against a light 3 bettor, you're only ever going to be SA/WB when you get action.
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Old 11-29-2007, 06:28 PM
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i would stack off against me with TT in that spot everytime, but the point is why donk when i will probably Cbet and then he can raise.

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Really? Seems like even against a light 3 bettor, you're only ever going to be SA/WB when you get action.

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we has a gutshot
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