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Old 11-30-2007, 02:48 PM
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Default Re: TP2K, 3bet pot, facing minraise

Guys it's 20 hands lets not get carried away here. I'd probably call the minraise but it seems pretty spewy to do so.
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Old 11-30-2007, 02:48 PM
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I think given the villain, who's going to have a wider range than avg, probably correct to shove here.

Not that I like doing it too much.

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I take it you didn't read my post about just needing 31% equity for a shove to be EV neutral?

Hand 0: 31.087% 21.75% 09.33% 7107 3049.00 { AcQc }
Hand 1: 68.913% 59.58% 09.33% 19465 3049.00 { AA, JJ-TT, ATs+, ATo+ }


That's the worst case scenario and shoving is EV neutral vs. that, factor in that he's sometimes bluffing and sometimes has an even worse hand makes this a pretty clear shove.
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Old 11-30-2007, 02:49 PM
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Default Re: TP2K, 3bet pot, facing minraise

Worm75,

We are only committing 2/3 of our stack because we led in the first place. My post said not to lead.

As played, fold unless you feel like gambling it up. Can't fault you if you do given manipulated equity but if you are prone to tilt after poor play (especially if you don't recognize it and blame it on coolers and such) then I recommend you fold and shut down all tables till you realize why this is so...
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Old 11-30-2007, 03:17 PM
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Default Re: TP2K, 3bet pot, facing minraise

I think he has random aces enough to make this a push. It seems I tend to fold here a lot and then some donk shows me A7 to tell me "yeah I had it good fold."
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Old 11-30-2007, 03:46 PM
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Worm75,

We are only committing 2/3 of our stack because we led in the first place. My post said not to lead.

As played, fold unless you feel like gambling it up. Can't fault you if you do given manipulated equity but if you are prone to tilt after poor play (especially if you don't recognize it and blame it on coolers and such) then I recommend you fold and shut down all tables till you realize why this is so...

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Aww, my bad misread post. Agreed
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Old 11-30-2007, 04:20 PM
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60/10/3... shove.

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His range is [censored] huge and includes EVERY Ace and a lot of bluffs and [censored] like one pair + gutshot. Lol @ the stove with AT+. Just lol.

You've got a strong hand and the fish wants to swim with the sharks. Just shove.
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Old 11-30-2007, 04:24 PM
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Guys it's 20 hands lets not get carried away here. I'd probably call the minraise but it seems pretty spewy to do so.

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I've had 20 hands where I was 0/0, 7/5, 60/40, or lots of weird stats. But my VPiP-Pfr gap never gets this wide.

The tendency: "limps way too much" is pretty crystal clear here, even after 20 hands. It's far more likely that he's a bad player than a good one. GoGo Bayes' Theorem.
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Old 11-30-2007, 04:27 PM
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you re pretty pot committed i think, get it in.
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