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Old 11-29-2007, 06:30 PM
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i would stack off against me with TT in that spot everytime, but the point is why donk when i will probably Cbet and then he can raise.

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Really? Seems like even against a light 3 bettor, you're only ever going to be SA/WB when you get action.

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you dont need "action" when they cbet/fold to a c/r like 60% of the time. and we has an outs
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Old 11-29-2007, 06:31 PM
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i would stack off against me with TT in that spot everytime, but the point is why donk when i will probably Cbet and then he can raise.

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Really? Seems like even against a light 3 bettor, you're only ever going to be SA/WB when you get action.

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you dont need "action" when they cbet/fold to a c/r like 60% of the time. and we has an outs

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He's not talking about anybody folding though, he's talking about stacking off on this flop with TT.
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Old 11-29-2007, 06:36 PM
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Default Re: donkbet why?

there isn;t much else to do with TT here. we are OOP, i hate c/c, then ending with a tricky decision if a JQK or A hit, or convincing ourselves to fold to a blank when he keeps betting.

we can't c/f the flop with an overpair, so c/r is the only move. we are only a 3/1 dog if he has JJ, QQ, KK or AA anyway, and we are a favorite over 99

when i am OOP in 3bet pots w/o the betting lead i am pretty much always c/f or c/r
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Old 11-29-2007, 06:38 PM
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Default Re: donkbet why?

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He had an overpair and gutshot, he loved his 4 extra outs. But you're right, how can he think he's ahead when you 3-bet PF and raise him on the flop?


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Am i the only one that that will 3bet on button with AK then when someone donk bets me reraise the flop with AK on this board knowning he will fold often... And does... obv as played hero is rep'ing AA/KK/QQ type hand but if hero is good he can do so with AK knowing donk better has to fold a lot of hands that beat AK
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Old 11-29-2007, 06:40 PM
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there isn;t much else to do with TT here. we are OOP, i hate c/c, then ending with a tricky decision if a JQK or A hit, or convincing ourselves to fold to a blank when he keeps betting.

we can't c/f the flop with an overpair, so c/r is the only move. we are only a 3/1 dog if he has JJ, QQ, KK or AA anyway, and we are a favorite over 99

when i am OOP in 3bet pots w/o the betting lead i am pretty much always c/f or c/r

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The more i think about it the more i like the bet/fold with a donk bet here. Except he didn't fold.
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Old 11-29-2007, 06:43 PM
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Default Re: donkbet why?

"ooohhh I have an overpair, I beat AceKing, I should bet!!! lolz, ohh he raised??? AK again obviously!!! I'm ALL IN!"
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Old 11-29-2007, 06:44 PM
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when i am OOP in 3bet pots w/o the betting lead i am pretty much always c/f or c/r

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c/c is fine here
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Old 11-29-2007, 06:48 PM
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He had an overpair and gutshot, he loved his 4 extra outs. But you're right, how can he think he's ahead when you 3-bet PF and raise him on the flop?


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Am i the only one that that will 3bet on button with AK then when someone donk bets me reraise the flop with AK on this board knowning he will fold often... And does... obv as played hero is rep'ing AA/KK/QQ type hand but if hero is good he can do so with AK knowing donk better has to fold a lot of hands that beat AK

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i think with AK in this spot, knowing that UTG raisecallers usually have a tightish raise, i;d just muck AK to the donk.

a TAG's calling range is gonna be maybe 99-QQ. maybe half the AA and KK combo's, sometimes AK. basically i don't like to try and get people to fold overpairs in 3bet pots.

when people donk on something like a Qxx board i will bluffraise alot with whatever i happen to have. this is because it is usually people with JJ-99 not wanting to c/f, so they b/f instead
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Old 11-29-2007, 06:50 PM
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Default Re: donkbet why?

I'd definitely c-r...worst case is you have 6 outs, you get a lot of folds, if he checks behind it's not terrible, and you might get called by a worse hand like 99 or maybe even 55, depending on how big his c-bet is...
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Old 11-29-2007, 08:56 PM
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Default Re: donkbet why?

he prly just thought, overpair, i bet to protect my hand and see if he has anything. he RAISES? gotta be a bluff, who raises with good hands if i bet into him?, i m all in!
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