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Old 11-29-2007, 06:35 PM
Indomitus Indomitus is offline
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Default JJ set rivered facing AI raise

Well villain is 35/10 in 300 hands with river agression factor 1.1.I played 20 hands at table with stats 21/21.He called preflop raises 12 percent of time.And here when he called my bet on flop i put him on AK or KQ.
He bets river,now i raised to get some value of that King and god dammit he shoved!There really one hand that i think he could have and beat me-AQ but i wasnt really sure if he had it.So what do u think guys?

No-Limit Texas Hold'em (NL100), $1.00 BB (6 handed)
CO ($116.6)
Button ($131.9)
SB ($229.72)
BB ($57.8)
Hero ($104.7)
MP3 ($100.95)

SB: Post SB $0.50
BB: Post BB $1.00

Preflop:
Hero is MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Hero Raise $4
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>
SB Call $3.5
<font color="#666666">1 folds</font>

Flop:($9) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]<font color="#0030DD">(2 players)</font>
SB Check
Hero Bet $7
SB Call $7

Turn:($23) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]<font color="#0030DD">(2 players)</font>
SB Check
Hero Check

River:($23) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]<font color="#0030DD">(2 players)</font>
SB Bet $10
Hero Raise $25
SB Raise $208.72
<font color="#666666">1 folds</font>
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Old 11-29-2007, 06:43 PM
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Default Re: JJ set rivered facing AI raise

Actually raise the river, now call.
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Old 11-29-2007, 06:46 PM
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Default Re: JJ set rivered facing AI raise

I think you have to call this here. He could easily have a lower set, possibly 2 pair, or even AA that missed a turn c/raise and now for some reason thinks is good.
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Old 11-29-2007, 06:48 PM
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Default Re: JJ set rivered facing AI raise

Yeah and I agree with dj... I'd raise river to around 40 and that makes it a trivially easy call.
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Old 11-29-2007, 06:48 PM
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Default Re: JJ set rivered facing AI raise

snap call
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Old 11-29-2007, 06:49 PM
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Default Re: JJ set rivered facing AI raise

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snap call

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Old 11-29-2007, 08:00 PM
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Default Re: JJ set rivered facing AI raise

pros to call :
you should have bet the turn instead of giving him a freecard. By checking the turn, you show him some weakness. So he could think you have second pair (A-10 suited) or medium pocket pair (7-7, 8-8). He can't put you on J-J because you don't bet the turn, so your "bad" play is indeed helping you as the river is luckyly a J :-)

cons to call :
- the way he played (call flop, check turn and bet river) is typically a straight draw that hits on the river.
- Besides, the fact you bet pre-flop UTG shows a strong hand like A-K or high pocket pair (10-10, J-J, Q-Q). So as he is in SB, he won't call you out of position without a good hand. A-Q, KQ suited are hands he will call with.
With A-Q in SB, a call from him really is a possibility.
- With Hand like A-K, he would have re-raise you pre-flop or on the flop.
- his first bet on the river looks really like a value bet. He thinks you are so weak by not betting the turn (there is no way he is putting you on a set right now) that you will not call more than half of the pot.
- By raising 25$ (stack=70$) you are now pot-commited (it means if he raises, your call is automatically an all-in).
So When he puts you all-in, it shows a strong hand from him.

my choice : fold
next time : bet the turn man!!! ;-)
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Old 11-29-2007, 08:27 PM
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Default Re: JJ set rivered facing AI raise

call, it doesnt seems like he d call aq on the flop, or not?
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Old 11-29-2007, 08:31 PM
Johnny McEldoo Johnny McEldoo is offline
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Default Re: JJ set rivered facing AI raise

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you should have bet the turn instead of giving him a freecard.

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I disagree. The turn check is much better play. No need to face a possible check raise and have to throw away a hand you would like to showdown with. Inducing a river bluff with a turn check is much stronger play IMO.

I agree that raising bigger on the river and calling an all in is probably the most profitable play. I don't think any river raise play and then folding to a reraise can be good. So in this case, you need to be prepared to play for your stack before the you raise the river or else just call.
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Old 11-29-2007, 08:32 PM
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raise BIGGER and fistpump snapcall.
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