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Old 11-13-2007, 01:09 PM
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Default 3bet TT, Get Raised on \"Good\" Flop

Villain is 20/9/3 thru 3500 hands and is def. a winner in the game. He is moneyymakkerr for those who play on stars. We don't have any recent history, have been playing on a few tables together for about an hour and have not yet tangled.

He called pf and raised the flop very quickly. Just calling pf certainly has it's merits and has been discussed several times but I'd rather not discuss pf. What do you think his range is here?

Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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MP: $42
CO: $112.85
BTN: $206.05
Hero (SB): $312.60
BB: $134.65
UTG: $226.75

Pre-Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
3 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $8</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $28</font>, BB folds, BTN calls $20

Flop: ($58) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $34</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $111</font>,
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Old 11-13-2007, 01:15 PM
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Default Re: 3bet TT, Get Raised on \"Good\" Flop

How often have you been 3betting him recently?
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Old 11-13-2007, 01:15 PM
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Default Re: 3bet TT, Get Raised on \"Good\" Flop

AKs, AQs, 99-AA maybe KJs AJs
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Old 11-13-2007, 01:27 PM
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Default Re: 3bet TT, Get Raised on \"Good\" Flop

Win 267
Lose -144

Need 35% equity for 0 EV.


Board: Js Jc 4s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 73.041% 71.51% 01.53% 22655 484.50 { 99+, AsKs, AsQs, AJs, KJs }
Hand 1: 26.959% 25.43% 01.53% 8056 484.50 { TcTd }


Adding 88.

Board: Js Jc 4s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 63.079% 61.77% 01.31% 23237 493.50 { 88+, AsKs, AsQs, AJs, KJs }
Hand 1: 36.921% 35.61% 01.31% 13396 493.50 { TcTd }

I think it's close either way.
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Old 11-13-2007, 01:47 PM
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Default Re: 3bet TT, Get Raised on \"Good\" Flop

I think he can have like 67ss here too.
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Old 11-13-2007, 02:03 PM
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Default Re: 3bet TT, Get Raised on \"Good\" Flop

Ehhhh, can't see it unless he is really frustrated/tilting. Have seen stranger things though [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Does the guy have a static pfr? Is he positionally aware?
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Old 11-13-2007, 02:07 PM
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Default Re: 3bet TT, Get Raised on \"Good\" Flop

you 3bet preflop because you felt you were good against his calling range. The flop does little to change things; I'm comfortable getting it all-in here.
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Old 11-13-2007, 02:21 PM
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Default Re: 3bet TT, Get Raised on \"Good\" Flop

i think you can add more spade combos then AK and AQ...its definitely a shove
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Old 11-13-2007, 05:07 PM
Noam Chomsky Noam Chomsky is offline
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Default Re: 3bet TT, Get Raised on \"Good\" Flop

He's a winner in this game? Weird.

I don't three bet him here often. I think he has AA or KK on the flop and you should fold.
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Old 11-13-2007, 05:28 PM
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Default Re: 3bet TT, Get Raised on \"Good\" Flop

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He's a winner in this game? Weird.

I don't three bet him here often. I think he has AA or KK on the flop and you should fold.

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soul reading, very nice
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